David Ravel Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Greetings everyone. We had some games today. I decided to play my nids tonight (XENOS) against a friend and another table of our friends were playing IG and stuff. Since I always play IG they asked me about Hotshot Gun being ''Get's Hot''. I said yes they all are. Then the guy proceeded to show me that no. I checked every codex with the weapon, and he was right. Did I hallucinate this all my life ? Or is this something quite new ? I was SURE that all Hotshot were ''Get's Hot''. Or at least I killed my own guys ALOT while thinking it, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Argos Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I just took a quick scroll back through the IG rule books going back to 4th, and can't find the rule anywhere. I have also been playing pretty much only guard since the late 90's and don't ever remember playing that way. I think you may have been killing off your guys for no reason... Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idlem Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I can't recall it ever being Gets Hot as well. That's a heavy price to pay for a S3 weapon. I only have one plasma guy in my entire army because of Gets Hot, and his inescapable ability to fry himself the first time he takes a shot at something. I can't imagine ever taking Stormtroopers at all if they all had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Stormies would never be taken if that was the case! :P Maybe you're getting confused with the Sternguard special ammo that's at AP3? Oddly, this does somehow ring a bell with me too. It's not some ancient 2nd Ed thing is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Bells ringing here too. Wasn't it hell rifles in an older =][= codex which had Gets Hot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Man, Scions with Hotshot are barely worth taking as they are right now, with Gets Hot they'd be worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Man, Scions with Hotshot are barely worth taking as they are right now, with Gets Hot they'd be worthless. BLASPHEMY! :) Don't say that... I am building my army with the scions are the core... Then again... they are supported by tougher stuff. But all in all, I think they are decent. You just need to use them right and have the right synergy for them. With Scions it is very important that you focus fire and flank. There is no room for hurting the enemy a bit, the unit they are shooting needs to be destroyed or crippled so badly it cannot pose a real threat. Normal guard can fight without flanking, and pound the enemy with artillery fire and what not. Using the Scions requires a new way of playing the guard. One not to command safe. My only example now I have is my Farsight Enclaves. Taus weakness is close combat. I turned it around and made it my strength. I make sure I am the dominant one in close combat (not going to bring that up here). Its result is a confused player/opponent who doesn't know how to deal with an "out of the box/not internet list made" thinking army. But for shear power and not regards for the fun of the game (in my opinion and the community where I play) scions isn't the way to go. Thankfully we have here set tules how to restrict to powerful armies. Guidelines to make balanced armies between players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The special weapon version of the hot-shot had a typo that made it get hot. But that was only the HSVolley-gun, and was faq'd to correct that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lee Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The bells are ringing but I looked at my older books and can't find it........??? Lord Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I think i remember a Volley Gun in the Inquisition/Arbites expansion from about 2nd/3rd ed had something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ravel Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Well at least I'm making other people hallucinate it hahaha. Well thanks for clarification regarding 5th and 4th. I didn't think about check my 5th one, but man am I feeling weird about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I want to know, but at the same time I don't want to dig my 2nd Ed books out... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoqqu Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Had a look at the witch hunters codex and it's not from there either. However there is a weapon profile for "firearms" that has gets hot. Funny thing is that I can't find a single unit that has that particular weapon... *edit* found it. The adversaries of the witch hunter army list has unit "mutants" has option for firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ravel Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 I never played that, so I guess I invented that all along. Wow haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm been searching everything too and can't find it. I stopped playing in 1989 before restarting in 2013 and its not in any of the 1st / 2nd ed. - at least not the books I have. Maybe it was just the "Hot" part of the name? Edit - and yes it was Hellgun at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hellguns were AP5 lasguns, I sort of miss them as I rather liked them. Still, if you're going to get something wrong better to all do it together - that's how we roll in the Guard :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderPirate Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I was also part of this mass delusion. I was using Hot-shot Lasguns as having 'Gets Hot!' in 5th/6t. As Kilofix said, probably down to the similarity between the name and the rule. Oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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