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Found it, post #521 in the warseer thread: "He can buy a bike, but not a Terminator armour."


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I've only gone and got the thing:)

 

updates soon


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Oooh

 

@Pascalnz - Would love to know if/how Astorath has changed, equipment options for DC and if bikes are the same as the SM codex.



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so, one of the stand out little tidbits is that, 5 assault marines in a drop pod with two infernos pistols and 2 melta guns[you read that correctly:P] are 5 points LESS that before, when they only had one melta gun:).

 

Dante is about the same price he was before, he also gains a tactical objective trait along with descent of angels... which, works on anything coming from reserves... like...drop pods:D, terms every darn thing gets to only scatter d6 and reroll failed reserve attempts.

 

corbulo's +1 ini stacks with everything else, only his +1 ws doesn't stack with other priests.

 

the sanguinor costs a storm raven now.... and flying him with corbulo in one, could be hilarious, with a 6 inch from the hull +1 WS,INI, ATT buff

 

furious cost the same as they did before and magna grapples are a free replacement to smoke launchers.  Frag canons now cost five points but are exactly the same :D!!!

 

the libby dreads can get a melta gun to replace the storm bolter and the force weapon is an ap2 strx2 force weapon.

 

furious are only ws 5 , but still a v13


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I've only gone and got the thing:)

 

updates soon

 

 

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY !!!!!


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Sexcellent.

Command Squad details please.


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We're going to get a lot of traffic in the next few hours. 

A reminder to all B&C members and guests to keep things productive, constructive and welcoming, please. 

 

Thanks. 


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Astorath is very sad, same stats as before and his warlord trait is adamantium will..  his axe is +1 strength ap2..two handed unwieldily. but on a 6 it auto wounds and causes instant death[of course you can still save that wound normally]

he's the only guy that makes DC reroll to wound no a charge.

 

otherwise he has the usual rules for a chaplain and FC of course....he costs 5 points less than captain karl at least.

 

 

Death company no longer have a limit on how many pistol weapons or melee weapons[no grav pistols though] and you can get up to 15 in a squad... 3 points a jump pack same price as the old lot base


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Curious: Any points difference between DC Furioso and normal Furioso? Or same price, but one gets WS5 AV13, other gets Rage and NCSMW?  Blood Talons 10 pts as rumored?  What difference do they make, only Shredding?


Edited by appiah5, 10 December 2014 - 10:48 AM.

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command squad looks just the same as a standard squad, they can take jump packs for 25 and the squad costs a century. standard 3 vets a company champion and a noviciate

 

I have a feeling the next Shield of baal book will have something like it for terms. otherwise, they couldn't use that sweet banner


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Awwww yeah FRAG CANNONS!!
:cuss is this about 4 meltas in 5 guys, can you elaborate?^^

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Awwww yeah FRAG CANNONS!!
censored.gif is this about 4 meltas in 5 guys, can you elaborate?^^

 

Sergeant can dual wield melta pistols methinks, and you can take 2 meltaguns regardless of numbers..?


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Astorath is very sad, same stats as before and his warlord trait is adamantium will..  his axe is +1 strength ap2..two handed unwieldily. but on a 6 it auto wounds and causes instant death[of course you can still save that wound normally]

he's the only guy that makes DC reroll to wound no a charge.

 

otherwise he has the usual rules for a chaplain and FC of course....he costs 5 points less than captain karl at least.

 

 

Death company no longer have a limit on how many pistol weapons or melee weapons[no grav pistols though] and you can get up to 15 in a squad... 3 points a jump pack same price as the old lot base

 

 

DUDE O_O !!?!?!  Thats INSANELY cheap.


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the bikes look the same bar furious charge I think.. 63 points base can get two special weapons, including grav, they can get an attack bike and up to 5 more.. that kind a stuff, nothing weird



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command squad looks just the same as a standard squad, they can take jump packs for 25 and the squad costs a century. standard 3 vets a company champion and a noviciate

 

I have a feeling the next Shield of baal book will have something like it for terms. otherwise, they couldn't use that sweet banner

 

Novitiate has a chalice? i.e. +1WS?


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yup dual wielding inferno pistols on seargants is a thing.. wee..... 

 

super annoyingly, you can't buy them artificer armour.....and you can't buy arti armour for the sang priest either.

 

 

oh, you can get a 50 point tech marine as your HQ

 

 

Just a narethium for the noviciate


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Question: 63 pt Bike squad - does not include vet sarge, does it?

 

Come to think of it, Do ASM, Tac, Scout, etc. squads have options for non-vet sergeants?


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Weee gravgun bikers, finally I can paint some red ones :D
4 meltas in pod for ~100pts? Waat I still cant believe this^^

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I've only gone and got the thing:)
 
updates soon

How, I thought the book would only come out on Saturday?

If you do have it, plkease confirm that there are no more TDA priests.

Are there any unit designation changes like the SM Captain on a bike making bikers troops?

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it's all standard 10 point upgrades for sergeants 

 

It's 135 points for 4 melts in a pod


Edited by Pascalnz, 10 December 2014 - 10:53 AM.

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Astorath is very sad, same stats as before and his warlord trait is adamantium will..  his axe is +1 strength ap2..two handed unwieldily. but on a 6 it auto wounds and causes instant death[of course you can still save that wound normally]

he's the only guy that makes DC reroll to wound no a charge.

 

otherwise he has the usual rules for a chaplain and FC of course....he costs 5 points less than captain karl at least.

 

 

Death company no longer have a limit on how many pistol weapons or melee weapons[no grav pistols though] and you can get up to 15 in a squad... 3 points a jump pack same price as the old lot base

 

Thanks. Uggh that his axe is still unwieldy, but that's quite a points drop. I can definately see myself using him with a blob of 15 DC.



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Do Captains have Artificer Armor? Relic Blade or equivalent?


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dante and some pods is soo dirty, only scattering d6 means you will always get in range of template and melta range:)



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it's all standard 10 point upgrades for sergeants 

 

It's 135 points for 4 melts in a pod

 

Hell yeah, no more Vet Sarge taxes for my Tac Squads!


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yes, relic blades and arti armour are options for the captain.... who is still pretty pointless looking at all the sweet baby love you can get form all the other choices:)


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