Epimetheus13 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The latest BA leaks show a BA Tac Squad armed with...grav guns! http://imgur.com/a/dLu8s Do we think that DA are also due for the upgrade in our next codex? Salvo grav guns march perfectly with salvo BoD bolters, to say nothing of how useful 'grav cav' Ravenwing would be... Of course, the BA Tac squad also has Heavy Flamers, but I don't see that coming for DA Tacs as it is a flavourful weapon for an assault-oriented Chapter. Whereas grav guns aren't unique to BAs or Codex chapters anymore...so why wouldn't the relatively Codex Astartes-compliant, old-tech-savvy Unforgiven get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 FAQ/Errata for DA are meant to nerf us our most useful equipments/units not for adding us something... So it's NO... NO GRAV for DA until the new codex (maybe)... Considering that the sixth edition dexes will have the bug treatment (outdated codex without dedicatec FOC, LOW, objectives, and so on) updated through dataslates put in all the places i guess we could wait forever for gravs to DA... So DON'T count on gravs for DA... we already pay 6 points to add a teleport homer to a bike and we already have LSV, DS, NJF, DT, BoC... With such a powerful lineup of veichles/units, who needs the most cheesy weapon of the astartes arsenal??? Seriously i would like to be ironical but i started to play X-Wing and FoW... I lost every hope to see a decent DA codex so i limit myself to convert/paint the miniatures i have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 DA will probably get grav guns next iteration, just as BA are now. I would hope DA eventually get a new Tactical Squad too, but, yeah, we know how that has lays gone. You never know though. GW really didn't need to go out of their way to do a BA Tactical Squad set...and yet they did. I am pleasantly surprised, and hope it is a trend which continues for the Dark Angels and other Loyalist Chapters, as well as for the main Traitor Legions. I would be very happy if everyone were to get at least one defining box for their basic troops which could be combined with other sets (Space Wolves and Blood Angels players really have it good in this regard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 We probably will in a codex update, but before then? Probably not. EDIT: I am reminded of the time they updated our Storm Shields to have a 3++ during Fifth Edition (prior, they were 4++) albeit it was a few years after the Space Marine Codex came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 4 up invulnerable save but only in close combat! Made our cyclones shoot two missiles and our typhoons actually make sense too. That was the rare, elusive good errata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJD Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Grav cav would be great but it's the hope of a DA specific tactical box that realy makes me smile. I know it's a long shot but both BAs and puppies now have there own box. Here's hoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 We do have our vets box which has lots of DA goodies that can go on things other than vets, though it is showing its age, in addition to the RWCS which has a few other PA goodies. We're better off than most chapters already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The Vet box wears its age well :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 And actually I don't know if I want a new vet box at 50$ or keep the 20 bucks "conversion sprue" ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonPhoenix Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Pay attention that new BA Tac Squad became with new 32 mm bases. So may be we will not have grav guns, but 32 mm bases definitely will be ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The Dark Angels Veterans box is a very poor kit. I can explain why, in detail, if anyone wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJD Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 It just occurred to me that the infantry slots in my carry case will all be too small for the bigger bases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I agree with shabbadoo... The robes are not that Great and it bears bits for the DW too that subtract Space for more bits and blings for the vets... The DA icon in the shoulder pads is just a sword and a bit clumsy too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epimetheus13 Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Shabbadoo, I'm curious. What makes the Vets box so very poor? It'a quite old and missing a heavy weapon, but the DA upgrade sprue itself is cheap as chips, and it works brilliantly with other bits lying around from other kits. I built a footslogging command squad using spare bits from the Black Knights sprue, and I have an idea to use the termie legs with leftover torsos from the Deathwing sprue to scrounge extra models...I'll just need to greenstuff their backs or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Maybe they will remove that old sprue and replace it with something new that costs more and isnt as good but hey its new and has a robbed Sgt and a grav gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HsojVvad Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Want to play Space Marines, then go ahead and play Space Marines. Otherwise why do we have a codex. I want to be unique. I want to be different. Otherwise, how are DA going to be unique? All this will do is fuel to the fire that DA don't need a codex and should be like Black Templar and be thrust in the SM codex. Grav guns? No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 We could have the legion where plasma doesn't have the "get hot rule" we won't be indoctrinated into the main rule book as we are to unique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Space Wolves didn't get them, Blood Angels did. It could go either way. Don't count your special weapons before they're requisitioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Space wolves got freeze guns which is very cool, maybe we could get the man portable rift gun or a grenade launcher :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Space Wolves didn't get them, Blood Angels did. It could go either way. Don't count your special weapons before they're requisitioned. Space Wolves didn't get grav weapons because their model kits do not come with them. Simple as that. What model kit do the Dark Angels use for Tactical Marines? That's right, the one...that now comes with grav guns. The only way Dark Angels won't get a grav gun nex time around is if there is a new Dark Angels Tactical Squad box; likely with its own new and unique weapon included (Astartes Grenade Launcher loaded up with the our special grenades, or something else altogether). If there is a new weapon, it will ooze its way into other unit options too, even if only as combi-weapon/pistol variants (if applicable). If that were to be the case, I hope we don't get grav guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Come and join the vanilla marines for grav weapons. Take BT place so they give us a codex ;) Grav weapns are so coooooooool... you need themmmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diavlo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I don't care about their grav guns, I want tactical squad with proper, nice and good looking Dark Angel insignia. Like the ones from the DV box, but on normal, not snap in marines. I have even ordered those :cuss metal ones which are too small for a normal marine. Tough lesson (to order something and then learn it's incompatible with current SM models). :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 My speculation will be in the next codex we will get a unique a dark angel tactical squad box a unique deathwing dreadnought as the blood angels and space wolves have the furiso and murder fang as well has two unique tactical squad boxes and I believe the blood angels will get some kind of sanguinary terminators in keeping with the space wolves and dark angels format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 This is really a weird thing to talk about from a tactical stand point. 1) Do I use greenwing tacticals? Hardly... not that they're horrid just because the army usually doesn't lend itself best to that kind of battleplan 2) Would I put Gavguns in said tactical squad? Heck no. Now I know what you're going to say to that.... Prot, you're so short sighted, and have bad breath. True, true. So let's assume we DO get grav guns... and I buy a mint. Does this make anything really better? The true power in Grav guns is on a bike, and/or a GravCannon on something with relentless IE: Centurions. I use Grav-cents all the time with my Ultra's. They are fantastic and a honey pot for anything AP2 my opponent owns. So for me the question becomes - if I had access to Gravguns anywhere in my army, where would I put them? Bikes? (I kinda like my BlackKnights, I can't see GW messing with them like that.) Maybe the Deathwing? That would be a cool option. I still think they're best on Centurions because of how centurions work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZONKEY Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Tactical marines and some scouts are the back bone of my army with plasma cannons and missile launchers and the ravenwing and deathwing are my supporting elements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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