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The Sons of Barbarus : A Death Guard Tactica Thread


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Sicaran punisher - thoughts?

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Awesome rules. God it looks weird tho. Don't like the fact the cannon is to one side not centred

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fielded my quad mortars with phospex shells for the first time yesterday....absolutely horrible...Every unit they targeted got wiped in the first volley...If i weren't playing Deathguard i'd actually consider not using them..



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My gaming group banned them after I used them once 😆 lol

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Out of idle curiosity how large are peoples DG forces?

 

I did want a Legion...! Now in terms of both collection, and army building more broadly, I'm look to diversify in terms of options so I can field a real range of lists. 

 

In terms of recent planning, I've got my hands on a Dreadnought Drop Pod, and I'm waiting on a Leviathan -  and then I'm simply a Dreadclaw away from my intended Orbital Assault Drop Pod list I've been planning. Once I've scoped the list out exactly, I'll share with everyone for feedback - as it's something out of the ordinary, input will be invaluable! 

 

Thereafter, I'm getting more squads ready for the Reaping, and will look to utilise Charlo's oft-suggested Vigilator strategy!


Edited by Chaeron, 17 July 2017 - 08:14 PM.

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Drop pod deathguard list!! Def interested in seeing that.

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Drop pod deathguard list!! Def interested in seeing that.

 

I've probably mentioned, I was lucky enough to play against one (brother against brother!) at the last Throne of Skulls: definitely got me thinking that I'd like to try that! I think in terms of general tactica, it's so much more upfront and aggressive than I would normally play - and I think that in itself offers a variety of tactical challenges. That said, I've run with the idea and I'd ideally include Mortarion and the Leviathan in Pod, but I've got to play around with points and ideas. Building those three Dreadclaws is next on the list for starters, but hopefully - I'll have that ready for the Autumn. I'd definitely welcome any thoughts anyone has on that sort of strategy at this stage: I'm weighing up the number of Tacticals vs. Terminators in a list like that, to maximise both scoring and combat potential in what is an initially mobile list, but slows thereafter.


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Was that's marks deathguard?

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Sicaran punisher - thoughts?

 

Cool, but overly not too useful in the Heresy. Especially in a hotly contested Heavy Support Slot.

 

Deleting medium Infantry is not something the Legions really struggle with - ESPECIALLY Death Guard with Chem Flamers and Grave Wardens.


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My gaming group banned them after I used them once 😆 lol

Dodged that so far...

Drop pod list may lend itself to PotL or Primarchs Chosen perhaps? Have faced a WE version with red butchers in dreadclaws. Can be very effective. Can always pop in some deathstorms if you have some points over.

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Well my opponent did almost cry after a 1000pts of assualt marines and hq disappeared looking

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Well my opponent did almost cry after a 1000pts of assualt marines and hq disappeared looking


Ouch. But then if they will huddle up nicely for you...

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Will never make the same mistake again haha. It was funny.

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That's right LtDan, a real inspiration! Having never seen or played against a list like that, definitely gave me something to try.

 

 

My gaming group banned them after I used them once lol

Dodged that so far...

Drop pod list may lend itself to PotL or Primarchs Chosen perhaps? Have faced a WE version with red butchers in dreadclaws. Can be very effective. Can always pop in some deathstorms if you have some points over.

 

 

At the moment, having now made space in the list for the Leviathan and its pod, I can fit eight traditional scoring units in - and I can't remember if the Pods score, I think they can when dedicated transports, although I'm not sure if that applies for Troops and say things with Implacable Advance (or indeed, all Pods generally score/contest?). The major issue, bar the Leviathan, is that I've not put too much anti-tank in - and I'm thinking that it might be appropriate to drop 'something' - whether Terminators or a Tactical Squad, and kit out a few more things for combat? I think I'd struggle to fit in Deathstorms at 3k, and everything else I want to bring!


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That's right LtDan, a real inspiration! Having never seen or played against a list like that, definitely gave me something to try.


My gaming group banned them after I used them once lol

Dodged that so far...

Drop pod list may lend itself to PotL or Primarchs Chosen perhaps? Have faced a WE version with red butchers in dreadclaws. Can be very effective. Can always pop in some deathstorms if you have some points over.

At the moment, having now made space in the list for the Leviathan and its pod, I can fit eight traditional scoring units in - and I can't remember if the Pods score, I think they can when dedicated transports, although I'm not sure if that applies for Troops and say things with Implacable Advance (or indeed, all Pods generally score/contest?). The major issue, bar the Leviathan, is that I've not put too much anti-tank in - and I'm thinking that it might be appropriate to drop 'something' - whether Terminators or a Tactical Squad, and kit out a few more things for combat? I think I'd struggle to fit in Deathstorms at 3k, and everything else I want to bring!
Transports don't Score in the Age of Darkness. Only Troop units and things with Implacable Advance and such.
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Unless youre playing the mission where tanks score. In that case, if a transport is a tank, it would score.

 

Otherwise, if it doesnt score, it Denies which is just as good because if you land a pod on an objective, they have to destroy it to then be able to score the objective which means wasting time killing it.


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Chainfists, meltabombs and powerfists do alot of anti tank work for me. If your podding the whole army perhaps these are the way forward so you can get stuck in to whatever you land near?

Transports = denial tru dat.

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Thanks all: I couldn't remember, and I think I had been confused perhaps by using 40k scenarios - does the same apply for those missions, just to clarify? Either way, adding that many denial units in addition to those that do score is more than I've ever had before I think!

I'd agree that close-up anti-tank is probably the way to go: I might look to shift things around to accommodate and see what we collectively think of the list.

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Unless youre playing the mission where tanks score. In that case, if a transport is a tank, it would score.

Otherwise, if it doesnt score, it Denies which is just as good because if you land a pod on an objective, they have to destroy it to then be able to score the objective which means wasting time killing it.

Unless Attrition or stuff like that is a factor.
Damn.
There's so much stuff to keep in mind.
Way to bloated.
GW should scrap the rules and dump it down, so you don't have to think while playing.
Oh, wait... ;)
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Lol, lets just say the pods are useful and leave it at that ...
Curious to see this list now!




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