Akaiyou Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Vote which list you believe will win, or wish to see win in this match up.MISSION:ALTAR OF WAR- ATTACK WITHOUT WARNINGSPECIAL ARRANGEMENTS: IRON HANDS PLAYER WILL BE SETTING UP TERRAIN & DEPLOYING FIRSTDARK ANGELS PLAYER WILL BE PLACING OBJECTIVES & TAKING FIRST TURN DARK ANGELS: Combined Arms Detachment (41#, 1988 pts) 1 Sammael on Sableclaw, 200 pts (Warlord; Rapid Manoeuvre) 4 Deathwing Terminator Squad, 245 pts (Chainfist x1; Assault Cannon x1) 1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant 4 Deathwing Terminator Squad, 245 pts (Chainfist x1; Assault Cannon x1) 1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant 4 Deathwing Terminator Squad, 245 pts (Chainfist x1; Assault Cannon x1) 1 Deathwing Terminator Sergeant 1 Ravenwing Attack Squadron, 276 pts 5 Ravenwing Biker (Chainsword x3; Plasma gun x2) 1 Ravenwing Sergeant (Melta Bombs; Chainsword) 1 Land Speeder (Multi-melta; Multi-melta) 1 Ravenwing Attack Squadron, 276 pts 5 Ravenwing Biker (Chainsword x3; Plasma gun x2) 1 Ravenwing Sergeant (Melta Bombs; Chainsword) 1 Land Speeder (Multi-melta; Multi-melta) 1 Ravenwing Attack Squadron, 276 pts 5 Ravenwing Biker (Plasma gun x2) 1 Ravenwing Sergeant (Melta Bombs) 1 Land Speeder (Multi-melta; Multi-melta) 1 Ravenwing Support Squadron, 75 pts (Heavy Flamer x1; Typhoon Missile Launcher x1) 1 Ravenwing Support Squadron, 75 pts (Heavy Flamer x1; Typhoon Missile Launcher x1) 1 Ravenwing Support Squadron, 75 pts (Heavy Flamer x1; Typhoon Missile Launcher x1)Total Roster Cost: 1988IRON HANDSFormation: 1st Company Hammerfall Assult Force (13#, 795 pts) 1 1st Company Hammerfall Assult Force, 795 pts 1 Terminator Captain (Power Sword; Storm Bolter) 4 Terminator Assault Squad (Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield x3) 1 Terminator Sergeant 4 Terminator Squad 1 Terminator Sergeant 1 Land Raider Crusader (Multi-melta): Combined Arms Detachment (40#, 1205 pts) 1 Knight Errant [KNI], 370 pts 1 Librarian, 65 pts (Bolt Pistol; Force Sword) 9 Sternguard Veteran Squad, 285 pts (Combi-Grav x5) 1 Veteran Sergeant (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Melta Bombs) 4 Scout Squad, 70 pts (Camo Cloaks; Sniper Rifle x4) 1 Sergeant (Boltgun; Camo Cloaks; Sniper Rifle) 9 Tactical Squad, 150 pts (Multi-melta) 1 Sergeant (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun) 9 Tactical Squad, 165 pts (Plasma gun; Heavy Bolter) 1 Sergeant (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun) 1 Thunderfire Cannon, 100 pts 1 Techmarine GunnerTotal Roster Cost: 2000This battle is going down this thrusday. Results will be posted perhaps with some pics of the battle to accompany it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akaiyou Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Mission:Attack Without WarningTURN 1Iron Hands deploy in the middle of the table as per mission rules. Then vengeance rains upon them! The Deathwing deep strikes into action unloading a storm of twin-linked bolter and assault cannon fire at 2 objective holding combat squad of tactical marines, and a combat squad of sternguard with their warlord. Thanksto the mission special rules the Deathwing are also able to assault on the turn they arrive from reserves, the iron hand tactical combat squads are wiped out giving up FIRST BLOOD.http://s4.postimg.org/q0mo27vft/image1.jpghttp://s4.postimg.org/x54hb92p5/image2.jpgTURN 2The Iron Hands retaliate killing several deathwing terminators with ease, only a handful survive. Then the cavalry arrives! The Ravenwing come in full force in support of the 1st company turning the tide of the battle back in the Dark Angels favor, landspeeders hunt the imperial knight whilst the ravenwing attack squadron squares off against the iron hand assault terminators and sternguard in an effort to attack the enemy's greatest strength head on and neutralize the threat.http://s4.postimg.org/tpcd1p5gp/image3.jpghttp://s4.postimg.org/mjklz8wdl/IMG_0291.jpghttp://s4.postimg.org/s90ujk2jt/IMG_9824.jpgPOINT OF CONTENTION! DOES THIS IMPERIAL KNIGHT HAVE A COVER SAVE FROM THE FOREST?http://s9.postimg.org/56lh96t3f/image.jpghttp://s9.postimg.org/tj9tneocr/image.jpghttp://s9.postimg.org/epv62ngln/image.jpgTURN 3The land raider crusader and the assault terminators from the Hammerfall formation are uterly beaten by the combined effort of the ravenwing, deathwing and sammael in his sabreclaw. The imperial knight takes notice of the deadly landspeeders with dual multi-melta flanking him and goes after them. While the remain landspeeders unload typhoon missile launchers on it from the opposite side. The sternguard are wiped out by the ravenwing SLAY THE WARLORD is achieved by the Dark Angels as the librarian bites the dust.http://s9.postimg.org/jeb5xu5sb/image.jpghttp://s9.postimg.org/gy9cjznpn/image.jpghttp://s9.postimg.org/sona1dgi3/image.jpgTURN 4With most of their units taken out of the equation the Iron hands call upon the might of their hammerfall terminator squad to save the day. However the dark angels quickly prove the folly of their believe as the deathwing survives the volley of fire and the land speeders finish off the imperial knight and then bring their heavy flamers to bear upon the scout squads wiping them out easily. The Iron Hands with little left to fight back with concede the battle.http://s9.postimg.org/lrt3ouk7f/image.jpghttp://s9.postimg.org/isqsfh03v/image.jpgWINNER: DARK ANGELS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markham82 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I say it gets a cover save. Sometimes the rules make no sense plus whatever was on the other side of the forest probably got a save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akaiyou Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 I say it gets a cover save. Sometimes the rules make no sense plus whatever was on the other side of the forest probably got a save. What exactly gives it the cover save in your opinion? The rules from PREVIOUS editions that said units get cover saves when shooting across area terrain are NO LONGER a rule. The only rule to consider is "is the imperial knight 25% obscured" So you are saying you really can't tell where 25% of that imperial knight is? Because from what i see maybe 5% of the knight is partially blocked by a branch or two with the rest of the knight sticking out in the open clear as day. The trees are unpainted perhaps that makes it harder to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 That pic was the best case shot against the knight by a squad of bikes, from the looks of the other pics. I'd grant the save, unless it was just the one model firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akaiyou Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 That pic was the best case shot against the knight by a squad of bikes, from the looks of the other pics. I'd grant the save, unless it was just the one model firing. Lol yeah it was my 1 deathwing terminator firing his assault accnong and he rolled 2 sixes. Then my opponent cried cover save and im like 'from what??' he said the trees and i said 'im shooting u right between the trees through a wide gap my guy can see ur at least 90% of ur knight without obstruction' So i took the picture for a 'models eye view' to show him that there is really nothing at all blocking his knight from view. The only rule in 7th edition that matters if 25% covered unless you are inside ruins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Thanks for the context. Under those circumstances, there was no way he deserved a cover save from those trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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