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IHF's Archive: Sketching the Heresy - Lheor Rules PDF

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You know Lheor was originally an Apothecary, right?


The Lion strode through the Halls of Hell;
Across his path grim shadows fell
Of many a howling, nameless shape
Daemons with dripping jaws agape.
The darkness shuddered with scream and yell
When the Lion stalked through the Halls of Hell.

 

 


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You know Lheor was originally an Apothecary, right?

 

Are you thinking of Kargos Bloodspitter? Lheor has only ever been mentioned as a former heavy support officer.

 

Great rules though, nice and understated.



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You know Lheor was originally an Apothecary, right?

 

Yeah, like Sandlemad said, pretty sure you're thinking of Kargus, Lheor was only ever a Heavy Support Centurion during the Heresy

 

 

You know Lheor was originally an Apothecary, right?

 

Are you thinking of Kargos Bloodspitter? Lheor has only ever been mentioned as a former heavy support officer.

 

Great rules though, nice and understated.

 

 

Thanks! I kinda wanted to give him a couple of cool tricks (to justify giving him a ruleset) while emphasising that during the Heresy, he's really just some guy



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Sandlemad, IHF, it appears you are both correct. My apologies, I misremembered  something from Talon of Horus.


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The Lion strode through the Halls of Hell;
Across his path grim shadows fell
Of many a howling, nameless shape
Daemons with dripping jaws agape.
The darkness shuddered with scream and yell
When the Lion stalked through the Halls of Hell.

 

 


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You folks remember my ideas for Knight House 'Yeomanry' a couple years back? Me too.

 

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Love the Yeomanry idea. Instead of creating an Astra Militarum force, I had thought it would be cool to instead create a Knight House that operates as a small self-contained army.


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I quite like the design, particularly how well it meshes with established Imperial Knight design, but the collar/half-helmet thingy that the Claviger wears is just way too high in my opinion. It feels like the wearer would not be able to even slightly look down unless they significantly angled their torso.


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Some variant concepts on yesterday's designs:

 

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Love the Yeomanry idea. Instead of creating an Astra Militarum force, I had thought it would be cool to instead create a Knight House that operates as a small self-contained army.

 

Thanks! It's certainly not unique, I've seen a few men-at-arms/ retainer forces for Knight houses springing up, I just wanted to suggest a template force

 



I quite like the design, particularly how well it meshes with established Imperial Knight design, but the collar/half-helmet thingy that the Claviger wears is just way too high in my opinion. It feels like the wearer would not be able to even slightly look down unless they significantly angled their torso.

 

Yeah it's purposefully kinda absurd, being inspired by frog-mouthed helms - I thought the baroque styling and impracticality was perfectly 40k, and in-universe, the Clavigers are armed with greatswords, so I figured having amazing visibility wouldn't be as huge a hindrance for a melee unit


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I like it. I'd be curious if you had any ideas for alternative Knight heads too.

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Here's the Mechanicum-aligned house iteration:

 

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I like it. I'd be curious if you had any ideas for alternative Knight heads too.

 

Honestly, FW released so many variant heads I don't really think they're necessary, although I do have quite a few unique Knight designs planned (current count is 7) and they'll all have their own style of heads?


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Colour me intrigued.

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Colour me intrigued.

 

Some of them are detailed in this post over on my vehicle design thread, although they are subject to change



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I like those. Was a little worried you might have stolen a march on my ideas (though I doubt you've seen those) but it looks like you've been more adventurous than me. I like that Cerastus especially.


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I like those. Was a little worried you might have stolen a march on my ideas (though I doubt you've seen those) but it looks like you've been more adventurous than me. I like that Cerastus especially.

 

Thanks, the biggest changes are probably the Balescythe being jettisoned for a shield-bearing & up-armoured Armiger variant, as well as additions for a Mechanicum precursor to the Renegade Knight Desecrator (I'm also figuring out the best way to incorporate the Preceptor's las-pulsar into the Questoris range)

 

Yeah, I generally avoid other folks' homebrew stuff 'cause hobby ideas can converge in weird ways even without any cross-pollination of ideas, and I don't want to risk subconsciously appropriating other peoples' concepts



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Whereas my process was "I want to give a Dominus a whacking big axe."
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Big love to the malinax ones 😁

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Just a fun little tidbit - for any of you interested in my Emperor's Children sun-killers ideas a few pages back (I've spoiler tagged them below), I spotted a design that looks to be an icon for them on the new Emperor's Children transfer sheet, and I wasn't too far off tongue.png (admittedly, a skull over a sun isn't much of a reach)

 

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Big love to the malinax ones

 

Thanks! I actually gave Malinax some more love with one of the knight designs discussed above over on my other thread


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Went back and did another variant of the Knight Yeomanry design for Renegade/Chaos Houses:

 

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As has become a bit of a tradition ... I've taken a stab at bringing one of your concepts to plastic-and-resin life - and so felt it only right to post a picture of my efforts in yer thread.

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An XXth 'Redactor'  Chaplain. [well, I'll possibly head my own direction with fluff considerations due to a somewhat heterodox approach that utilizes a lot more Germanic conceptry ... and in this particular case, certain points around Grimnir - 'Masked One' :P ; but the visual is most definitely aligned with your production, at any rate] 

Now, you didn't go into much detail about wargear, so I made my own inferences. Could still use accessorizing with a holstered pistol, grenades and vials and pouches etc. And the Crozius piece ... I didn't really have any other easily available 'serpentine' parts for it [the Dark Elf Corsair banner-topper is around here *somewhere*] , so in the lack of one in the art you produced, I just went with the rather obvious cobra [goes with the Old Norse pun-value around 'hooded one' aforementioned, as well as a Jormungandr reference - large 'wand'/staff]. 

I felt that a scoped bolter went with a hanging back and precision shots where required ranged engagement modus operandi; and while the Deathwatch Mk.VIII back-pack might be looked a bit in askance at for Heresy-era purposes ... the Alpha Legion have all sorts of technological resources at their disposal - and it can be said to be a modified Mk.VI or Mk.IV pattern; while the main reason I went for it, the armoured lense, seemed to connote the kind of officer who'd have the entire battlefield under surveillance etc. 

Oh, and I further 'tweaked' your original design with a scaled cloak, because dapper. And also because it actually makes my method of truescaling [pun .. retroactively intended] rather easier . 

Anyway ... you produced that fine piece of conceptry some five and a half years ago. It's aged really well, and I'm surprised nobody - that I could find - had taken a stab at a 'Redactor' or a 'Censor' sooner. 

I felt like after all the work you've done bringing life to various corners of the 30k milieu that it'd be cool to join the ranks of those who've come back to show that it's ... well, it's had a real-world impact, so to speak. 

I might actually go through some of your old work [would be cool if you could make it easier to access and browse by putting it all up on your blog] and try a few more things like this. The fact you explicitly based the most iconic part [the mask] off an established range part and prominently signposted what it was .. made this a lot easier, too. 

Churr! 


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Vox Stellarum efforts:
The Unyielding Adamanticores [truescale Astartes, auxilia, and sectorial AdMech; M37/38]
The Haunting Harii of Hvergelmir [truescale Astartes ... and associates]
The Unification Wars [truescale Thunder Warriors, (Proto-)Astartes, Army of Unification, Aegyptian-style Proto-Mechanicus raiders, etc.]
Combat Archaeology [Tomb Raiding for Fun & Prophet]
Horus Heresy [truescale loyalist IVth, VIIIth; Agents of the Sigillite; VIth; and so much more; and Umbral's amazing Traitors]
The Worlds-Wide Webway [(Dark) Eldar, Imperial Inquisition, an a-maze-ing realmweave of fear and wondermeant]
Thorian Inquisition [some rather different Inquisitorial Storm Troopers, true-scale Fire Hawks, Black Dragon, Inquisitor and associates, etc.]
For Whom The Great Bell Tolls Thrice [attempts to put the 'priest' back in 'tech-priest' with more-medieval mechanicus]
InquisiNecronMunda [the log that incepted it all - at least two Inquisitors, truescale Deathwatch, local enforcers, cultists, etc.]

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Wow Ryltar, that's really neat to see, bit of a blast from the past too!

 

Regarding compiling designs, the blog's pretty much defunct now, I can't imagine I'll really be using it a whole lot going forwards, and even though I wanted it to be a place to showcase stuff that had been completely finalised, there's even content on there now that I don't consider part of my current design portfolio.

 

*However*, my vague plans for a Patreon are getting closer to fruition, and once the fundamental work on that has been done, I will be developing several means of collating 'finished' designs, including stuff like a single central thread on here (which'll mean closing this one & the vehicle design thread) as well as a central google drive that'll host finished PDFs for various systems.


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So I'm currently working on a proof-of-concept supplement for the launch of my Patreon, and as I've already got rules and art for Lheor, it's for the World Eaters! Anyway, remember this?

 



 

 

WORLD EATERS MARAUDER SUPPORT SQUAD & DIMACHAERI TERMINATORS:

The marauders are the re-named subjugators from earlier in the thread, the idea being they're anti-infantry specialists, responsible for 'mopping up' after the main Legion charge - they can have flamers / plasma guns / volkite calivers / sarum-pattern rotor cannon (shoulder fired rotor cannon with pinning & rending). The Dimachaeri are the tip of the spear for the WE, they form part of the first wave responsible for causing enough damage for slower elements to arrive - weapons wise, I remembered that Calgar's fists of maccrage were supposed to be from a khorne champion, and I loved the idea that the WE armoury modified tartaros power fists / lightning claws with bolter weapons integrated to suit their need for melee combat (plus there was some artwork of a tartaros termie with such weapons I love but have been utterly incapable of finding again). They'll be normal twin LCs with a twin-linked 18" assault 1 boltgun, with options being swapping the bolters for TL hand flamers / inferno pistols, or exchanging one LC for a power fist / chain fist.

 

Apologies for the quality of the scan, the paper had a slight tea stain which is fine for sketching, but makes greyscale scanning go crazy apparently.

 

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They're in the midst of a *slight* update:

 

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And to give you an idea of the kind of standards I want to meet with the artwork for this project, here's a recent portrait commission I just finished:

 

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Edited by Iron Hands Fanatic, 27 April 2020 - 02:00 AM.

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