LutherMax Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 There has been a lot of griping (some justified, possibly) about the disparity between BA and SM units since the SM codex dropped. Some might argue that we have things they don't so why not the other way around? But one way to rectify the disparity is to use a small allied SM force along with your BA to 'bridge the gap'. So, what would you bring, and from what Chapter..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjr Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I've mentioned this somewhere else, but this is a pretty decent allied force, to bring some dakka Chapter Tactics: Sentinels of Terra Close Range Bolter Drill (re-roll to hit within half range) Centurion Warsuits (Cent Devs can be taken as Elites. Cent Assault can be taken as fast) HQ: Libby (Divination) Elite: 3 Cents with Grav Cannons Troops: 5 bolter scouts Fast: Pod for cents + Libby Heavy: 1 unit of Thunderfire cannons FYI: Sentinels of Terra have access to a relic Auspex with 18" range and a buff against buildings. Currently I'm toying with a cheap Skyhammer for allies (Imperial Fists again). More on that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Librarius Conclave. White scars if on bikes or something, maybe sallies with pyromancy for lulz. Suppression force with Telion to give them rending. Rending, shredding, pinning, ignore cover pie plates :) Chapter master to make a beefy Lord of a successor. Techmarine because it's better than ours! And of course the Storm wing. But also LR spear head is cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 One of the Formations. I doubt I'd bother with taking a CAD/AD of C:SM (or C:DA for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Honestly, out of all of the unit choices I don't see why we can't get Chapter Master in our codex. Wolves get Wolf Lords even though they are all technically named? And they don't have successors... Blargh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Honestly, out of all of the unit choices I don't see why we can't get Chapter Master in our codex. Wolves get Wolf Lords even though they are all technically named? And they don't have successors... Blargh. A Wolf Lord is their equivalent of a Captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Honestly, out of all of the unit choices I don't see why we can't get Chapter Master in our codex. Wolves get Wolf Lords even though they are all technically named? And they don't have successors... Blargh. A Wolf Lord is their equivalent of a Captain. Well the SW get Logan and the Space Wolves don't have any successors (anymore). so it makes some sense not to include a generic Chapter Master. BA on the other hand do have multiple named successor chapters and the fluff also implies that there are others. So it makes no sense that all chapter masters work exactly like Dante or Seth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 My bad, I thought it was the equivalent! Point still stands though. When the book lists successors it sucks we have to use Dante or Seth. Then again, Dante is just so good anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Yeah it would be worse, if Dante wasn't good. It's also a shame that our chapter masters are LoWs and the SM codex has them in the HQ slot (except for Papa Smurf). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryCanadian Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'm almost finished my painting my Red Scorpion allies, Sevrin Loth with Centurion Devastators and a tact squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'm almost finished my painting my Red Scorpion allies, Sevrin Loth with Centurion Devastators and a tact squad Red scorpions are a great one for us, as you can put Apothecaries (read: SP) in your tactical squads. No Heavy flamers but good for objective campers in the backfield! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryCanadian Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Red scorpions are a great one for us, as you can put Apothecaries (read: SP) in your tactical squads. No Heavy flamers but good for objective campers in the backfield! The Apothecary Sargent is a FREE upgrade, so the tactical's have FnP and Centurion Devastators are invisible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Interesting... So not a huge list of things BA players want but can't get from our own codex. Stormwing does make sense and I might consider it, but it won't be top of the queue - I have my eyes on some FW stuff first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paikis Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Interesting... So not a huge list of things BA players want but can't get from our own codex. I think that's because although there are units in other codexes that we don't have (Centurions, TFCs etc) there aren't any roles that aren't covered by units in the BA codex. We can clear infantry hordes, tanks, monstrous creatures, fliers... every threat we can face on the battlefield we do have an answer for in our codex without any allies. That's not to say I don't dream of Blood Angels Devastator Centurions; I like the model, yeah I said it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Say it with me now... Flesh Tearers Assault Centurions. Beautiful, just beautiful. The perfect companions of Seth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Say it with me now... Flesh Tearers Assault Centurions. Beautiful, just beautiful. The perfect companions of Seth. That would be pretty rad actually... D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietOfLiquor Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I've actually fallen in love with the skyhammer formation. 6 grav devs, 2 mms, combi-melta, combi-grav, both squads maxed out, two min squads of asm with power axe and meltabombs, brings that quick forward hitting power ahead of my armor company! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Ill second the skyhammer formation... having heaps of fun usong those! Although i do cry a little everytime the skyhammer assault squads wipe out enemy dedicated assault units.... BA should be able to do that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I love the sky hammer in theory, it's everything the BA should be. I don't like it's release though, it just feels dirty to use. I wouldn't even mind if we got it and couldn't use Grav cannons (as our Devs can't) should still be ace. Meltacide with multi-meltas :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I love the sky hammer in theory, it's everything the BA should be. I don't like it's release though, it just feels dirty to use. I wouldn't even mind if we got it and couldn't use Grav cannons (as our Devs can't) should still be ace. Meltacide with multi-meltas Yeah putting the datasheet in the box only is dirty. We could also use heavy flamer devastators. But I guess no one gets those. Four heavy flamers in a drop pod would be an ice horde killer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Sisters do. I would HEAVILY welcome them too. No reason not to have then really. Salamanders may get even more jealous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 About the "Chapter master" you discussed previously. It is to note, that the Blood Angels Chapter Masters are treated as Lord of War, and, i think it pretty good this way. Why ? ===> Because, it allow us to add some quite cheap Lord of War (Seth...155pts) with two HQ, giving us at the end, "3" HQ... Also, the Space Marines chapter master is really good cause of the Relics options (the...shield....) and the bike. (Blood Angels are not really know to be bike fan, well not until we, one day, got sammael bike...THAT WOULD BE AWESOME). Don't ever underestimate Seth, he can smash a whole terminator squad on his own...but always remember to give him some "meat shield"... =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Seth certainly has his uses. He eats Ork Nobz for breakfast (Fnar) D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjr Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 We also have Malakim Phoros as a Chapter Master (Lamenters). On a side note, he's pretty much what I wanted Tycho to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Well, since there is no official errata on malakim being HQ or LoW, you can do what i did on my last battle....Fielding all the mad peoples.....Seth,Tycho and Malakim... (And Tycho is awesome, thank to him and his 9 mad death company brothers, i owned a squad (5) of grey knight paladin, he was the last to survive, but thanks to his 2+ save, he won the fight.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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