Black_out Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So with the release of Tempest the red books are now behind. I have them on PDF but really don't want to carry my rather expensive laptop around when I play games at the local gw. So my question really is, do you foresee FW updating the current red books as the introduce the rest of the legions? Or do you think they'll release another set and have a book 1 and book 2 type deal? I only ask because I was about to order them when it dawned on me that they may become obsolete and I'd have to purchase the same book twice just for the new rulesets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 there should be an update next year yeah^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 People who were at the Recent GW open Day and who had a chance to talk with the FW Crew have told us that, yes, FW plan on Updating the Red Books and releasing new 'Editions' of them with the most up-to-date unit entries and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Awesome, thanks folks. Looks like I'll be waiting for an updated set then. Granted, the Crusade army list book shouldn't be changing much, right? Since it covers basic/non-specific units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 If anything the next LA:CAL Book will come with additional new units such as: Deredeo Stormbird Leviathan Contemptor-Cortus (possibly book 6 is when we'll first see this?) Damocles Command Rhino Knights Errant (book 6) Shattered Legions etc. Any any errata or fixes (SUCH AS MAKING ASSAULT MARINES CHEAPER) that would come about with a changing of the times / the FW gaining more Experience. As well as any new, Generic, RoWs included in book 6 and the Book 4 Generic Relics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionary Pallas Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 MAKING ASSAULT MARINES CHEAPER A man can dream, Slips. A man can dream. Or woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Or making Immortals worthwhile goddammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsovitt Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Shame they couldn't tack on the new entries in a red book including the other legion rules (Tempest and Book VI - Ultramarines Blood Angels/Dark Angels and White Scars) That way I could buy one book rather than one new book and one updated book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Or making Immortals worthwhile goddammit. Are Immortals not? I really like the concept behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Dallo Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Do we have a more specific time-frame than "next year" yet? Cheers. Dallo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Or making Immortals worthwhile goddammit.Are Immortals not? I really like the concept behind them.Losing scoring and vexilla access for FNP and a useless special rule :/ I just use their minis as Breachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Do we have a more specific time-frame than "next year" yet? Cheers. Dallo I second this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Destroyers need a point reduction, Breachers need a HUGE point reduction or access to Veteran traits as was initially planned, Assault Marines need a point reduction... Justaerin need to be fixed, Power Scythes need a boost, Emperor's Children need something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Assist Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Always thought it odd terminator squads do not benefit from Veteran traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Veterans have got to prove useful in some way. If I'm honest, Breacher and Assault Squads in Betrayal had some half hearted rules to give them Veteran Tactics, but there was no rules in place to support it outside of the concept. If there's going to be a legion to get that rule, perhaps in a manner of upgrade similar to how Word Bearers have Dark Channeling, it might as well be Dark Angels, because they've otherwise got to have some hamfisted approach to rules design because otherwise the fangirls will cry. Joking aside, because the 1st legion was around for a couple of years before all the other legions isn't cause to give them the Veteran Tactics upgrades. I'd appreciate seeing Veteran Jump Squads and Bikers/Jetbikes in some manner though. 50pts for Veterans to get Jump Packs, 75 for Bikes, 100 for Jetbikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Breachers seem very Ultramarines to me. Consider a Roman Shield - wall and read Betrayer and it totally makes me want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Question from someone who doesnt have the redbooks yet, but has them coming as part of xmas gift. How do we know they have been updated? Does FW actually put out an announcement etc... or does someone in January get them and just is like, oh look, all the stuff people said to expect in an update!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 the books themselves have yet to be reprinted. They usually announce or hint at their stuff in advance at their weekenders so were never truly left in the dark. And if they did a new book it would contain all the new generic units too not just updated rules which is why, I assume, its been taking a while Just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I haven't grabbed the Mechanicum Red Book yet, but I heard it was a lot tighter with regards to rules. Hopefully this will be a trend they carry forward in the 2nd Edition LACAL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 My only real criticism of FW 30K is that they charge so much for books that are obsolete so quickly. But perhaps they'll change that somehow since they're doing great with everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 So with the release of Tempest the red books are now behind. I have them on PDF but really don't want to carry my rather expensive laptop around when I play games at the local gw. So my question really is, do you foresee FW updating the current red books as the introduce the rest of the legions? Or do you think they'll release another set and have a book 1 and book 2 type deal? I only ask because I was about to order them when it dawned on me that they may become obsolete and I'd have to purchase the same book twice just for the new rulesets. how do you get them an PDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 It's the internet. Everything's available on the internet if you look hard enough. That's about as far as this discussion can go without treading into dangerous territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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