Atia Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Soooo guys - help me choose my chapter ^.^ The Unspeaking Led by the so-called "Crimson Apostle" Zardu Layak, it was said that the Word Bearers of the Unspeaking Chapter were warrior-sages to match any others, stilling their tongues with proud oaths of silence. To honour their masters, the Unspeaking's oath-sworn serfs would ritually mutilate and remove their tongues. This Chapter was wiped out during the Underworld War that took place after the end of the formal Battle of Calth. It was known that the Unspeaking had largely retreated from the planet's surface during the final hours of the war, and would go on to further infamy in the Shadow Crusade. Serrated Sun Chapter The Serrated Sun Chapter's iconography is that of a golden sun, centered on a black lozenge, on a field of maroon. The Serrated Suns Chapter accompanied Lorgar during his Pilgrimage. The Serrated Suns was ultimately lost to the predations of the first Imperial expedition known to ever enter the chaotic eddies of the Eye of Terror and treat with the Ruinous Powers and their daemonic servants directly some forty standard years before the start of the Horus Heresy. The survivors of the Serrated Sun would become the infamous Gal Vorbak, the first known Possessed Chaos Space Marines. The Serrated Sun Chapter's specialty was tactical drop strikes. Graven Star Chapter During the Battle of Calth, the Chapter of the Graven Star is recorded as operating in strength but, as before the Horus Heresy, it was noted that this chapter had made a speciality of boarding actions and gunship-carried assaults. It was known that the Graven Star Chapter had largely retreated from the planet's surface during the final hours of the war, and would go on to further infamy in the Shadow Crusade. The Graven Star Chapter's badge was the Octed or Star of Chaos. Can't decide - help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The Graven Star chapter! They specialize in boarding and such. Zone Mortalis match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I'm leaning towards the Graven Star too. No fancy reasoning though - I just really like their iconography. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col.hertford Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Changed my vote to graven star as you love Zone Mortalis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Serrated Sun D: Gal Vorbak everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barabbas Sogalon Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Serrated Sun because I've always liked Argel Tal. And also sun symbols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Zardu Layak was The Unspeaking, Argel Tal & the Gal Vorbak were Serrated Sun and Hol Beloth was Graven Star (which also specialised in Armoured Spearhead warfare on Calth). Â Which character do you like most out of the 3 of them? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Zardu Layak was The Unspeaking, Argel Tal & the Gal Vorbak were Serrated Sun and Hol Beloth was Graven Star (which also specialised in Armoured Spearhead warfare on Calth). Which character do you like most out of the 3 of them? That won't help, as I like all of them, and will paint and use all of them haha xD Col.hertford has a valid point about the Graven Star and me loving Zone Mortalis though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Graven Star I would say, the iconography is pretty sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 well the serrated sun is going to be done by every donkey who wants Argal tal and Gal Vorback so nix them. Â The unspeaking have the coolest iconography of all three but they are reported as annihilated at calth if that bothers you well... Â the graven star seems really cool especially if you like ZM. my vote goes for these guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Why not the Chapter of the Ruined King? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 As you are the Queen of Rumours, I suggest "The Unspeaking". Are you sure they were all wiped out? Who talked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I guess I fall in "The Graven Star" boat. I don't usually like boats but it seems nice and squishy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The unspeaking have the coolest iconography of all three but they are reported as annihilated at calth if that bothers you well... Â They actually make it off world - p105, Tempest. The scene where they are 'wiped out' in Mark of Calth is a dream/vision sequence given by a daemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol_Invictus Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I'm voting for The Unspeaking. Very cool iconography and I really like the Zardu Layak model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I say Graven Star, personally, but I probably would. I'm a pretty big fan of both boarding actions and armoured assaults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Â Â The unspeaking have the coolest iconography of all three but they are reported as annihilated at calth if that bothers you well... They actually make it off world - p105, Tempest. The scene where they are 'wiped out' in Mark of Calth is a dream/vision sequence given by a daemon. Oh ok cool I don't have tempest yet sorry well that changes there only problem (if it was a problem personally I like a little fluff twisting) I could change my vote then if you want to go really chaosy do the unspeaking there chapter symbol is wicked and Zardu is pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Well, I made a few +/- points:  The Unspeaking: + already pretty warped/chaotic appearance + favour Ashen Circle and Destroyers + they were on Calth and survived - not sure if the transfers are that usable on black shoulderpads?  The Serrated Sun: + Argel Tals chapter! + love their symbol - got all wiped out on Istvaan (and reformed into the Concecrated Iron), so not that "usable" for the Shadow Crusade/Calth  The Graven Star: + Boarding Actions, and Zone Mortalis! + Tanks! + M'kar - if only to see him die on the battlefield + they were on Calth and survived  On top of that: - I'll do all the special characters, independently what i choose as "main chapter"  well, I'll probably do the Graven Star since they fit with Zone Mortalis and i can add tanks later on :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The Graven Star sound like a good choice - ship boarding actions are known for being especially dangerous so these blokes have to be hardcore (armored assault is a cool too)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna707 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 But Gal Vorbaks are damn cool and apparently they are getting a right of war in the next book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 At Calth, the Gal Vorbak are spread throughout the force, and then you end up getting the Unburdened who are all over Calth according to Censure. Not to mention Erebus had two who served a bodyguard role in Unremembered Empire, although those two were killed. So plenty of room for Possessed beyond the original 40 Gal Vorbak. Â Hmm, I have to admit curiosity at how the Unspeaking got off Calth. So far only M'Kar and Erebus have done that and they went through warp portals. Â I'm really surprised at the Graven Star surviving since Graham McNeill nuked them in Calth That Was. Â I think I would probably go for the Unspeaking. Cool symbol, Ashen Circle and Destroyers, and they have a life expectancy following Calth. Oh, and they aren't the Serrated Suns, who are way too mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonExistentOne Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Didn't the Serrated Suns get wiped out at Isstvan? Its successor Vakrah Jal/Chapter of Consecrated Iron get my vote. (And since they were formed from the survivors of the Drop Site Massacre, you have the freedom to use multiple symbols in the same army.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Didn't the Serrated Suns get wiped out at Isstvan? Its successor Vakrah Jal/Chapter of Consecrated Iron get my vote. (And since they were formed from the survivors of the Drop Site Massacre, you have the freedom to use multiple symbols in the same army.)Not exactly. After Istvaan V, the surviving Gal Vorbak all went their separate ways. The Vakrah Jal were a new Chapter created by Argel Tal with officers and Legionnaires from all over the Legion. Presumably, some of them would have been converted to becoming Gal Vorbak. If it remained intact after Argel Tal's murder. As a result, it is unclear what happened to the actual Chapter of the Serrated Sun since it was rebuilt after the Pilgrimage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 No matter what choice you make, my Ultramarines will hunt you down ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 But Gal Vorbaks are damn cool and apparently they are getting a right of war in the next book Yeah, none of the special units and special characters are an issue, there were alot of Gal Vorbak and Mara Ghals @ Calth^^ No matter what choice you make, my Ultramarines will hunt you down ;-) no worries Ishagu, the 4th (edit. or the first? the 22nd? ahhhhhhhhhhhhh >.<) will march too ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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