Malakai Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The Black Templars have a lot of tabards. I have a lot of Templar bits from a commission I did a while back. The DV sarg is wearing a tabard and not a robe. Do you think it would be kosher if I threw in a couple of modified BT tabards in with my other robed vets? I'd make sure the vets w/tabards all got the hooded head treatment. So do you think it would look weird or cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 It would be fine, but don't put hooded heads with tabards, because that is what would be weird. Robes have hoods, tabards do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 lol, OK. I just thought it would reinforce the DA image more, but you're right it might be weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The third edition codex featured many tabards in artwork. This was before the Templars were fleshed out. They also had a lot of mk8 armor. So they are fair game, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 You know Shabadoo the Deathwing Knights wear tabards and have hoods. Not saying I would go in that direction but it might be a possibility. I'll see how it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffsnog Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The robes dark Angela wear are basically tankards anyways. The only real difference is a tabard is a sheet with a hole in it and a robe wraps around your body and closes in the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You know Shabadoo the Deathwing Knights wear tabards and have hoods. Not saying I would go in that direction but it might be a possibility. I'll see how it looks. Right, and I think that just may work better for them because the armor is TDA. I just prefer the more fully covered look to be more fully covered, and the less covered look to be less covered. I know the hoods on the models actually go inside the neck armor, throughout the entire range of Dark Angels models (excepting Asmodai, I think), so it really is just an illusion that the hood is attached to the robe, but I do think it looks better. Try it out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Me too. Robes all the way. Say 'No' to tabard tempations :) Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Pfft... Even Loincloths are okay...http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w20/fred40k2002/Dark%20Angels/2b0d27f9-e378-4564-bdd4-cd109cb18490.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Eeeek ... say 'No' to loincloth leanings :yes: Follow the true path, and robe up :D Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother dean Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It's a Kill Team I am playing with... A "Seeker" squad if you will. They look normal to all outside marines but to one initiated into the higher mysteries the Ravenwing and Deathwing themes and symbolism are apparent...Or a command squad for that Interrogator Chaplain... whichever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Ah -- obfuscation. What we are good at. Nice models btw :yes: Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 Nice work on that interrogator chaplain. I swear when I first saw him I thought he was a terminator. But back to tabards. Yeah I was going to use them on my Word Bearer force as well. Now I will just have one as I'm taking the other two and using them for the DA. It's amazing how many crossovers the DA and WB armies have as far as bits are concerned. Religious zealots, watcha gonna do? I've decided to paint a full 3rd company of DA. Obviously an ongoing project and more for display than play if you get me. In the greenwing I lack 2 more full tac squads and one full squad of each of Assault Marines and Devastators. Plus I need 5 Rhino/Razorbacks and a Drop Pod. If I use two tabards with the force I will have enough robed guys to put a vet sarg with all 6 tac squads and have a 5 man company veteran and 5 man company command squad. Transports are an issue though. I only have one Rhino/Razorback but holding off on getting any more as I have a feeling that GW will issue some HH era rhinos in plastic and it would be great to mix things up. Mk IIc isn't? But of course, there is the clarion call of Heresy to be answered. My lord Horus whispers to me..asking me to paint models in a strange shade of green.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Guys why are you calling them "robes"? Why not give it a proper-historical-knightly name: a surcoat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Guys why are you calling them "robes"? Why not give it a proper-historical-knightly name: a surcoat? Didn't Decent of Angels call them something else? Something like suplus I think, or I could be totally off. My book is thousands of miles away right now! But I know when they attack the rival knight order they talk about it a bit Edit: Surplice. That's what they called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'm sure Mike Lee meant surcoat because surplice looks like this: http://www.henningers.com/surplice-214-77.jpg Even ADB writes about surplices (Savage Weapons) - but seriously, how would you put that on the power armour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Look at the Company Master in the starter set, and the new Interrogator-Chaplain, because both of them are wearing surplices over their robes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Company Master only (and it's not a good miniature - robe between pauldrons and armour? in power armour?). Interrogator Chaplain has a (double?) surcoat - it has no sleeves so it's not a surplice. Surplice is not an accurate term for describing Dark Angels robes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I see your point. But would they all qualify as surcoats? The veteran body that appears to be walking forward is a sleeveless robe. And on the master, it could also be considered a surcoat, according to Wikipedia the could be sleeved as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Well, it's hard to precisely qualify any of these . Sometimes it's surcoat, sometimes it's almost like monk's habit (sans sleeves), sometimes it's something in between. There is no (known to me) patterns of surcoats that are slashed open at the front (not buttoned), nor do I know any existing (historical) examples of habits with such feature. In fact most things worn by Black Templars aren't tabards cause they are not open at the sides. I just thing that "robes" isn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Robe: A robe is a loose-fitting outer garment. Unlike garments described as capes or cloaks, robes usually have sleeves. The English word robe derives from Middle English robe ("garment"), borrowed from Old French robe ("booty, spoils"), itself taken from the Frankish word *rouba ("spoils, things stolen, clothes"), and is related to the word rob. There are various types of robes, including: - A gown worn as part of the academic regalia of faculty or students, especially for ceremonial occasions, such as a convocations, congregations or graduations. - A gown worn as part of the attire of a judge or barrister. - A wide variety of long, flowing religious dress including pulpit robes and the robes worn by various types of monks. - A gown worn as part of the official dress of a peer or royalty. - A gown worn in fantasy literature and role-playing games by wizards and other magical characters. etc... Yes, I will still continue to call it a robe despite surcoat being more accurate. I see no big negative connotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Yes, I will still continue to call it a robe despite surcoat being more accurate. I see no big negative connotations. True. I will however use surcoat to emphasize Dark Angels knightly heritage. Robe is more "scholary" to me, luckily Dark Angels are both knights and scholars so everything is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hooray for agreement! On The op, I think hooded tabard may look nice, but i would prefer without. I am also of the opinion that tabards are a rank thing, like Sgt, or codicer vs lexicanum. I give them my seal of approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 That's right- we just broke the internet with kindness ! As to the topic at hand: I love a good robe. I used to wear one when I, er, worked? I guess you'd call what I did a job. Anyway, you got to know when to fold 'em, know when to hold 'em, and know when to put a hood on it. I've never seen a tabard with a hood. Am I an expert? No. Just use some Green Stuff and bulk-up the tabard into a robe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 It seems there are many types and styles. You can even get a hood without a Robe at all over with a cape or Tabard. I think some of the cloth goes down inside the armor. Sort of like how Iron Man has his suit on under the armor in the movies at times. In 40,000 years Robe technology has moved light years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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