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Dark Heresy 2E

Dark Heresy

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Ulrik_Ironfist

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I'm in a 2E Dark Heresy Campaign, and we've really only just started. I'm playing what is essentially a Kasrkin (because I love them) and I built him as a warrior. He's got decent stats, the only thing preventing him from shining is my inability to roll low. I need some help with my character build going forward.

 

Here are a few things that I'm planning to make the character shoot better:

Mind Impulse Unit with weapon interfaces for hotshot and laspistol

Motion predictor for Hotshot

red dot laser scope for hotshot and laspistol

Backpack ammo supply for hotshot

 

The character was supposed to be an all around combat specialist, but I need some help with traits and such to make him better. I'm thinking of taking marksman, to keep from incurring penalties for range.

 

I need a bit of help.

 



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I'm in a 2E Dark Heresy Campaign, and we've really only just started. I'm playing what is essentially a Kasrkin (because I love them) and I built him as a warrior. He's got decent stats, the only thing preventing him from shining is my inability to roll low. I need some help with my character build going forward.

 

Here are a few things that I'm planning to make the character shoot better:

Mind Impulse Unit with weapon interfaces for hotshot and laspistol

Motion predictor for Hotshot

red dot laser scope for hotshot and laspistol

Backpack ammo supply for hotshot

 

The character was supposed to be an all around combat specialist, but I need some help with traits and such to make him better. I'm thinking of taking marksman, to keep from incurring penalties for range.

 

I need a bit of help.

 

I'll try my hand at this, since I'm running a campaign, but first: I don't think the MIU with Weapon Interface is supposed to work that way, I believe it's more for operating your weapon without actually holding it, like Predator's shoulder-mounted plasma projector thing.  You may want to okay it with your GM before you go looking for that particular piece of kit, and keep in mind that it has to be of Good quality before it provides bonuses.

 

Aside from the MIU, your planned weapon mods grant: +10 bonus for single shot attacks, +10 for Semi-Auto Burst and Full-Auto Burst.

 

Now, you said you were planning on taking Marksman, which has a pre-req of BS 35, so I'll just go ahead and work off of that.

 

A Standard Attack (single shot) provides a +10 bonus by itself, Semi-Auto Burst +0, and Full Auto -10.

 

So you come out to...

Single Shot: 55% chance of success

Semi-auto: 45% chance of success

Full-auto: 35% chance of success

 

Now we throw in Aiming as a half-action, which is a further +10 and allows you to attack once every round (You can take a full turn if, say, you're sitting in ambush, or something, for +20).

Single Shot: 65%

Semi-auto: 55%

Full-auto: 45%

 

Now comes Range, which ties in with your thinking about taking the Marksman talent.

 

The range of a Hot-shot Lasgun is 60m, so Short Range is 30m, Long Range 120m, and Extreme Range 180m, so you should ask yourself "How often am I going to be fighting things at distances of 120+ meters?" If the answer is "probably not very often," then maybe just grabbing a longer ranged secondary weapon (like a long-las) for situations where you can plan ahead might be a better idea.

 

Short Range, meanwhile, gives you a further +10 bonus, and Point Blank (flat 3m for all ranged weapons) gives +30, so measure those distances!

 

For further help with HITTING (most ranged weapon talents help with damage and penetration), I recommend two more mods: Modified Stock and Custom Grip, the Stock gives an additional +2 BS for every half-turn spent Aiming (every bit helps, right?) and the Custom Grip gives you a flat +5 to all BS attacks with the weapon.

 

 

As it stands right now, I'm hoping that your BS is higher than 35, but even if it is 35 you're already sitting at 55% for a single, aimed shot, which is pretty good for a beginner character.

 

Before I start throwing around talents and such, I have to ask, what's your group dynamic like?  Are you the sole heavy hitter of the group?  If the enemy comes running and you have to fix bayonets and get up to your elbows in their guts, is anyone besides you expecting to get out alive?  And further, what do YOU want to be? Good with a knife, better with a gun, or straight-up shooter?  The new edition is really free with what you can do, so knowing what you want to be, what you might need to be, what your combat stats are, and what your Aptitudes are can help narrow it down.


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I'll try my hand at this, since I'm running a campaign, but first: I don't think the MIU with Weapon Interface is supposed to work that way, I believe it's more for operating your weapon without actually holding it, like Predator's shoulder-mounted plasma projector thing.  You may want to okay it with your GM before you go looking for that particular piece of kit, and keep in mind that it has to be of Good quality before it provides bonuses.

 

I've run it by my GM, in fact he suggested it. We also have a high influence Techpriest, to requisition stuff like that.

 

 

 

Before I start throwing around talents and such, I have to ask, what's your group dynamic like?  Are you the sole heavy hitter of the group?  If the enemy comes running and you have to fix bayonets and get up to your elbows in their guts, is anyone besides you expecting to get out alive?  And further, what do YOU want to be? Good with a knife, better with a gun, or straight-up shooter?  The new edition is really free with what you can do, so knowing what you want to be, what you might need to be, what your combat stats are, and what your Aptitudes are can help narrow it down.

 

We have 3 shooters, a dual-wielding desperado, sniper assassin, and my character. Right now My character is the tank. I'm the driver and the pilot for aircraft, as well as being the all around combat guy. Though my rolls are terrible, leaving me unable to hit the broad side of a barn.

 

As for taking marksman, I don't know how often I'll be shooting at 120+ meters, as we're only 2 sessions in, and we only just landed.



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We have 3 shooters, a dual-wielding desperado, sniper assassin, and my character. Right now My character is the tank. I'm the driver and the pilot for aircraft, as well as being the all around combat guy. Though my rolls are terrible, leaving me unable to hit the broad side of a barn.

 

 

As for taking marksman, I don't know how often I'll be shooting at 120+ meters, as we're only 2 sessions in, and we only just landed.

 

 

Fair enough.  In this case, leaving the long range stuff up to the assassin might be the better call, but whether or not you want to take Marksman is up to you.  Some alternative options off the top of my head:

Precision Killer (Prereq: WS or BS 40) - No penalties for a Called Shot. Shoot those heretics in the face!

Hip Shooting (Prereq: BS 40, Ag 40) - Make a full Move and a single shot.  Move from cover to cover while you keep the pressure on.

Inescapable Attack (Prereq: BS 40 or WS 40, Per 35) - Penalty to your target's Evasion test.  You finally landed a hit, don't let them weasel out of it!

 

If it's scoring hits that's your problem right now, though, two suggestions:

 

1. Spend your XP pumping up your BS or WS

2. Buy new dice. tongue.png


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Is hard target still a thing in 2E?


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We have 3 shooters, a dual-wielding desperado, sniper assassin, and my character. Right now My character is the tank. I'm the driver and the pilot for aircraft, as well as being the all around combat guy. Though my rolls are terrible, leaving me unable to hit the broad side of a barn.

 

 

As for taking marksman, I don't know how often I'll be shooting at 120+ meters, as we're only 2 sessions in, and we only just landed.

 

 

Fair enough.  In this case, leaving the long range stuff up to the assassin might be the better call, but whether or not you want to take Marksman is up to you.  Some alternative options off the top of my head:

Precision Killer (Prereq: WS or BS 40) - No penalties for a Called Shot. Shoot those heretics in the face!

Hip Shooting (Prereq: BS 40, Ag 40) - Make a full Move and a single shot.  Move from cover to cover while you keep the pressure on.

Inescapable Attack (Prereq: BS 40 or WS 40, Per 35) - Penalty to your target's Evasion test.  You finally landed a hit, don't let them weasel out of it!

 

If it's scoring hits that's your problem right now, though, two suggestions:

 

1. Spend your XP pumping up your BS or WS

2. Buy new dice. tongue.png

 

Thanks for the suggestions. I had been looking at those traits, and I will be taking them. I have another character already rolled up as a back, up in case I get this one borked, which will probably work better for what I'm looking to do.



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No OPLAN ever survives initial contact... 
You, you, and you, panic. The rest of you, come with me...
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