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[carlisimo]

New rules always come out in the black books first. It later gets compiled, sometimes with changes, into red books.

The current red books don’t include any rules introduced in black books 6-8.

[SkimaskMohawk]

That's not true. The leviathan came out in book 6 and is in the current red book, as is phosphex quad mortars, mastodon, cortus, herald, laser vindi and all the new rite of wars introduced there. The missing things are the characters and knights errant.

[UnstableDominus]

I've been swayed by the new Dark Angels models to try my hand at 30k.  I've done some reading through this thread and have to admit, I'm still a little confused.  I see the rulebook and the army list collection (the two red books), but I also need book six right?  Can I get away with just the Age of Darkness Army List book and forgo Age of Darkness Legions?

[Lord Krungharr]

I’m also a bit confused with so many books needed. I want to start playing with my Iron Warriors. Looks like one could play with just the Army List book but you wouldn’t have any of the Legion specific rules or Rites of War I think? If we could just use the old tiny 40k rulebook that would be nice.

Also sounds like the new Legions book has been updated to have IronFire Rite of War which I am very interested in using.

[Spagunk]

I’m also a bit confused with so many books needed. I want to start playing with my Iron Warriors. Looks like one could play with just the Army List book but you wouldn’t have any of the Legion specific rules or Rites of War I think? If we could just use the old tiny 40k rulebook that would be nice.

Also sounds like the new Legions book has been updated to have IronFire Rite of War which I am very interested in using.

For Iron Warriors, you need the red army book and the red legion book. You should probably get the big rule book but otherwise you only need 2 books total.

 

If you want to ally/add admech stuff, you will probably want to add the tehgmata book for the two robbuts marines have access to (vorax, castalax) . Otherwise it's relatively easy to get into.

That said, book 8 has a couple of worthwhile items if you want some specialist gear. Mostly new sheets for some of the newer sicaran variants.

[Dindrenzi]

Has anyone purchased the enhanced editions from iTunes? Are they up to date?

[Lord Krungharr]

If I still had my old iPad I would have.  Instead I got the 3 red books off eBay.  I hope they don't change things up anytime soon!  Gotta get some mileage out of them, not cheap but FW is out of stock right now and will be presumably for a while.

[Spagunk]

Someone can correct me, but it will likely be awhile after book 9 before they collate legion/army rules into a new red book. I'd start a timer to about 6 months after book 9 before a hint at a new legion/army red book would start to appear.