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Stormhawk flyer appears to be coming to BA


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Hello all,

 

The breaking news this evening seems to be the impending update to Death from the Skies supplement and alongside it's release new Marine and Ork aircraft. The Marine flyer is called the Stormhawk and, judging by the picture below, may well be available to us children of Sanguinius!

 

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Image posted by Third Eye Nuke on Facebook

 

More info on the new releases can be found at the usual sources, but for quick access can be found here:http://www.miniwars.eu/2016/04/death-from-skies.html

 

Looks like those Storm Ravens and Storm Eagles might be getting some escorts!

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That Stormhawk - so, so, sooooooo ugly!!!

 Agreed looks like the barsteward love child of the storm talon and a land speeder tempest

 

It is extremely fitting for the Space Marine aesthetic, though.  The Imperium loves inefficient but powerful things (both in terms of strategy and design), and this definitely fits the mold.

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If we don't get the flyer, hopefully they update the storm wing rules. My understanding is we can always add that to our roster to gain access to storm talon and thus, possibly, the new flyer???

 

Edit: Reading the storm wing rules, not sure if we can actually field this formation. There is no faction assigned but does say you take units from Codex: space marine so I have no clue.

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If we don't get the flyer, hopefully they update the storm wing rules. My understanding is we can always add that to our roster to gain access to storm talon and thus, possibly, the new flyer???

 

Edit: Reading the storm wing rules, not sure if we can actually field this formation. There is no faction assigned but does say you take units from Codex: space marine so I have no clue.

 

The faction is codex space marines (as you may aswell use the one in the codex) so it's essentially allied space marines contained in their own little 3 model detatchment.

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Nothing from any book but BA can be used by us unless it specifically says it can (maybe Forge World stuff is an exception to that, but I haven't read any FW rules so I don't know).  If it is unclear, assume it can't be used by us, because odds are it can't.

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I hope we don't have to become "Red Marines" to use this like everything else recently. 

If we became red marines with our own chapter tactics (FC, DoA and/or 5th Ed Descent of Angels) and units, I#d be all for it.

 

Nothing from any book but BA can be used by us unless it specifically says it can (maybe Forge World stuff is an exception to that, but I haven't read any FW rules so I don't know).  If it is unclear, assume it can't be used by us, because odds are it can't.

FW is no exception, but many FW units either have a BA analogue or are faction BA anyways.

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Seeing how this has evolved into "our" DftS thread:

 

 

 


 


Blood Angels have their own section and their own Appendix. I would like to know why/how the BA Stormraven in this book differs from a regular Codex Space Marines one and what the BA Appendix entails. There's an entire sub-section of the B&C that would greatly appreciate this and sends their thanks in advance!

 
Blood Angels Storm Raven costs 25 points more now.

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No just kidding. There isn't the slightest difference between the entries. Not the slightest.
 

 


This is kind of a different question but do you know if the Storm Hawk is mentioned as being a valid replacement in any existing Formations? IE: Stormwing, Raptorwing?

 
Nope. There is a new formation with the Stormhawk in it, the Strike Wing, but appart from that nothing. After all the Stormhawk has a very specific role compared to other flyers.

 
 

 


Thank you for your prompt reply! I assume the Appendix is just saying what the weapons are, etc?
 
Furthermore, would you kind enough to disclose what role the BA (or any for that matter) Stormraven is supposed to be and what that role means please?

 
 

 


It is assault. Basically it means it shots faster than bomber but slower than fighter in the dogfight phase, plus it get snap shot during dog fight more often than the fighter.
 
Appart from that, based on the flying formation you choose, each type of craft has a different bonus (given the huge number of combinations possible, I won't list them here).
 
But don't worry, my Blood Angel brother, you are still a special snowflake: you have your very own Squadron Leader table !

 
 

 


A final, unrelated question if I may; are you aware of any difference between the Fighter Ace tables in this book and those published in Shield of Baal: Leviathan (which previously updated the old DftS book rules)?

 
 

 


After a thorough comparison, the Marine table is awesome, the BA is sub-part in my opinion.
 
Anyway, I think (not sure) there is no more fighter ace table as an upgrade. Now it's a campaign reward (5 victories required, one victory is killing a flyer or FMC). Instead there are those squad leader tables. (3 choices for each faction, rolled like a Warlord trait). I do not own SoB.

 

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Of course our table sucks. Why would you expect any different

 

You, yes, you.....you want some decent BA rules ? i got some on another topic, but don't say anyone about it^^. No overprices or anything, only righteous and GOOD balanced things....i'm sure you will find something you like.^^

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