Kelborn Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Could we please introduce spoiler tags for such an amount of text? ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Seeing as it's you asking Kel ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Thank you <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 You know, it occurs to me that, in all of the hubbub, I'd forgotten my own work style. Sig, has there been any change in which factions appear and get rules in Book 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 You know, it occurs to me that, in all of the hubbub, I'd forgotten my own work style. Sig, has there been any change in which factions appear and get rules in Book 2? So far, the rules line up has stayed the same. It's still the Dune Serpents&Void Eagles on the loyalist side and Steel Legion&Insurgos from the Insurrectionists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Alright, I've completed my review on what has been done in Book 2 Alpha. The Insurgos intro page is done and Grifft has it. We have the title fluff page for the Void Eagles, ready to submit. The Dune Serpents title page, Legion Origin, Primarch Origin, and Legion-Primarch Unification has been edited and needs to be submitted to Grifft. Two Red boxes have been drafted, one is the Negotiations by Sig and the other is the Yellow-Eyed by Blunt. There were revisions suggested for Negotiations, and I'm not sure if they were implemented, along with needing a title. Yellow-Eyed has been edited and is ready to be submitted to Grifft. Shepherds of Eden fluff page needs to be edited. I saw an opening quote for House Toho, but nothing else in this thread. I remember that they have their own thread and will check that after my review here is complete. Also need to check the FW books on how they cover Knight Houses. Lastly, Sig, which of those general history sections with the spoiler tags are to be in Book 2A? Actually, which factions are getting rules in 2A as well? I'll prioritize those for review and submission. Looks like there is plenty to do as of right now. Should be able to burn 5 days before I double-check with Athrawes or before K'awil pops back up for revision. EDIT: Also, I have nothing for the Steel Legion in this thread. Edited March 12, 2017 by simison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 -Changes still need to be edited in to Negotiations. -All of them except for A realm in ruins and The Strain of War As far the rules are concerned, been thinking about that one and we have a problem. As things are atm, books are like so Book 2A-Campaigns in the Galactic Core. This is where the Insurgos are going=that's where their rules will be Book 2B-Eastern Fringe Void Eagles, Steel Legion, Dune Serpents Book 2C-Battle of the Forge Updated Iron Bears rules. So yeah. We have a problem in terms of how concentrated the rules are into one sub-book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Why are the Iron Bear rules being updated? Why not just move the Steel Legion rules back to 2C since they're involved there as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Since when were the Steel Legion involved in the battle of the Forge? Weren't that the Warbringers show? I believe they're being updated to show the effect on the legion of Daer'dd's death. Redd made a post about it a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Which factions are inthe battle of the forge? Iron bears. But on traitors side? If there is no new faction honestly, then the battle of the forge as good as it is is not suitable for a book and would be better kept as red box. Goal must be to introduce 2 factions per split book. At the galactic core the drowned fight against whom? They fight with insurgos right? Give them dune serpents traitors and via this you can introduce dine serpents as a whole. They could be the connection to book 2. In book to the eastern fringe campaign we have steel legion vs scions and dune serpents. At last we have the void eagles. So either we reintroduce the dune serpents as loyalists or just give the proper row treatment and their primarch a spotlight or we already did that in book 2a. So plenty of space for the steel legion and the void eagles. Which leaves book 2c with? Ahhj. Steel legion....we did that on book 2a. Alternative could also be . 2A: galactic core-> new factions: insurgos. Maybe on both sides 2B: eastern fringe-> new factions: dune serpents & void eagles 2C:new factions: steel legion & maybe house toho and iron bears with a second RoW However I see the problem that the factions are not balanced. Would be cool to have a traitor outbalance a loyalist..but the second would involve only loyalists and it is kinda strange that we don't focus on the legion who conquers the easter fringe. Edit: if the warbringers are in the book, that could grant us the possibility to introduce basic rules maybe. Edited March 12, 2017 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I thought we were only introducing 4 factions per book (with the exception of book 1)? If so couldn't we simply do parts A and B with 2 new ones in each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 If only 2 then it is fine. But then splitting the book into 3 ? Then a split in 2 would be appropriate. Habing a book with only one or none new faction disturbs me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Tbh, I have to check as well what I've done for Toho. As I've progressed with the Preds, I can focus on Toho from now on. :) *edit* FW only did only write fluff for their Houses and create badass looking suits. Shouldn't be a problem. ^^ Edited March 12, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 I thought we were only introducing 4 factions per book (with the exception of book 1)? If so couldn't we simply do parts A and B with 2 new ones in each? Four factions with rules, and then a Titan force with fluff-only was our goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Since when were the Steel Legion involved in the battle of the Forge? Weren't that the Warbringers show? I don't think so, as far as I recall the only Legions involved in the Battle of the Forge were the Warbringers, Halcyon Wardens (let the name Ezekyle Abbadon never be forgotten. Kill for the living! Kill for the dead!), Iron Bears and I think the Harbingers, maybe, don't quote me on that last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Sorry, I was confusing things with Phase 3 in the Eastern campaign thread, thinking it had the Battle of the Forge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 The Battle of the Forge forces are Warbringers Harbingers(small force. Essentialy Icarion's eyes and ears) Loyalists: Iron Bears Halycon Wardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 If Book 2C is going to showcase Iron Bears 2.0, why not the Harbingers as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 To quote Doctor Strangelove: (censored) I have a plan! Book 2A Insurgos and either Void Eagles or Dune Serpents. Personally I'd be in favour of Dune Serpents so that the Void Eagles don't become the Warmaster's firemen, although that does seem like a role they'd be well suited to Book 2B Steel Legion and whichever of the two loyalist legions doesn't get featured in Book 2A Book 2C No new factions per se but updates including: -No Daer'dd Iron Bears rules -Expanded armouries as I suggested a while back -Units such as Icarion's enforcers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 I like it. Book 2C can show the evolution as the Legions struggle with the new state of affairs of a civil war. What do you mean by the Warmaster's firemen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 That plan I can get behind. The Eagles are better than firemen, they're not locked to a single fire station but constantly patrolling the streets in trucks that don't need fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 A bit like Hitler used Walter(Walther? don't remember how it's spelled in German, only how it's pronounced) Model in '44 and '45, whenever there was a desperate situation, he sent Walter Model to try and fix it. Due to their not being tied to a homeworld particularly and fleet based specialism, the Void Eagles would seem an apt legion to fulfil a similar role in the early Insurrection. Whenever there's a gap where the Insurrectionists are about to break through, Alex sends the Void Eagles in force to plug it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Oh, you mean like a Quick Reaction Force that can be deployed to emergency situations. Yeah, the Void Eagles seem well-suited to that. So, does that mean they should be in Book 2A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Oh, you mean like a Quick Reaction Force that can be deployed to emergency situations. Yeah, the Void Eagles seem well-suited to that. So, does that mean they should be in Book 2A? It would seem so. Meaning I actually need to come up with a plan for 2A. That's tonight's task then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Oh, you mean like a Quick Reaction Force that can be deployed to emergency situations. Yeah, the Void Eagles seem well-suited to that. So, does that mean they should be in Book 2A? It would seem so. Meaning I actually need to come up with a plan for 2A. That's tonight's task then Well, I now know that the Void Eagles are Insurgos are first up, so that's where my efforts will be aimed at for the next couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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