Cessna Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Does anyone have a recommendation for a good smooth spray paint base or primer I can use to paint yellow over? I've tried Army Painter Daemonic Yellow - maybe I didn't shake it enough (2-3 minutes) but it was a bit clumpy. I'm open to ideas, and thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Ive always primed black when painting yellow soooo... But White/Light Grey is probably your best option if you cant find an actual yellow spray or primer. Halfords is one if the better brands to shoot for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cessna Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 Ive always primed black when painting yellow soooo... I would lose my mind. Some people have the skill to pull that off. I am not one of them. I can probably get good results if I start from a yellow (or close) and work up, but starting from black? Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalSeer Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I use army painter and have never had any issues. You may need to shake more, or it may just be a bad can. I also start with mournfang brown, then use army painter desert as a mid-tone, then use daemonic yellow as my last highlight. Does the shading for me, and the yellow will be nowhere near as thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Ive always primed black when painting yellow soooo... I would lose my mind. Some people have the skill to pull that off. I am not one of them. I can probably get good results if I start from a yellow (or close) and work up, but starting from black? Yikes. I do like my Yellow Darker and with a slightly more orange tone however. Never takes me more than 4 coats of paint to get to the color I want, however. Examples: http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/BE07CE0E-A14F-4E1F-AB6B-F6717B32B02E_zpsxzhoad7g.jpg http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/E8D72305-7158-4142-8D5C-5D97CF0AF450_zps1fxdlxfb.jpg http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/2016-04-08%2000.17.14_zpsnx8uyd0u.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cephalopod Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 White Army painter. Then P3 Hearthfire layer with P3 cygnus yellow. You could undercoat yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Black. White / light grey zenithal. Dark yellow. Light yellow highlights. Bottom light Cassandora. Yellow ink to crank up saturation from top.Everything airbrushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Ive always primed black when painting yellow soooo... I would lose my mind. Some people have the skill to pull that off. I am not one of them. I can probably get good results if I start from a yellow (or close) and work up, but starting from black? Yikes. I think the OP (like the other 98% of us ) doesn't want black based recipes... perhaps try GW's zandri dust spray over a white spray undercoat its a lighter brown so will probably take the Averland yellow layers much better than Black and still give you a warmer yellow (which the Black base coat disciples swear is why they do it that way ) good luck whichever way you go Mithril Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DealerOfDeth Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 stynylrez from badger has a neutral Yellow Primer its for airbrushes but it can be painted on. they also have it in black, gray, white, olive green and red brown (thinking of this for my BA). I have used them for a little bit and love the results so far. A 2 oz bottle on amazon is less than $10 U.S. but used in a airbrush that 2 oz could probably could prime a army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoT Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Hey! Just started using the Daemonic Yellow Spray - I would agree with earlier comments of try another can. Mine has worked perfectly - did some reading around and people have had the same issue that have been carrying it out in either quite humid or very cold conditions. The other problem was from people spraying too far away and the paint starting to dry in the air (don't quote me on that one though). Best of luck finding a solution though; certainly has helped speed up my painting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Just been told by the guy in my local GW to hold off painting my Imperial Fists for a few weeks as they are finally releasing an Averland Sunset spray... This has made me a happy man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 So happy right now about this news. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellebras Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Well, I guess that makes it rather convenient that my Averland Sunset is running low. Tanks will be a lot quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Just remember, THIS IS NOT A PRIMER ANYMORE (none of their cans is)!Prime it first, for example black, then zenithal shade with the Averland can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Averland spray, eh? Planning on an IF-colored Vindi in addition to some infantry, so need to start figuring out the way I'm gonna be painting yellow things. In retrospect not so happy with how my Lysander is (the only IF I've painted so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Fortis Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 stynylrez from badger has a neutral Yellow Primer its for airbrushes but it can be painted on. they also have it in black, gray, white, olive green and red brown (thinking of this for my BA). I have used them for a little bit and love the results so far. A 2 oz bottle on amazon is less than $10 U.S. but used in a airbrush that 2 oz could probably could prime a army. I can give a hearty second to the Stynylrez neutral yellow! It has significantly decreased my painting time. That's a good thing because I'm slow as a snail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Does anyone have a recommendation for a good smooth spray paint base or primer I can use to paint yellow over? I've tried Army Painter Daemonic Yellow - maybe I didn't shake it enough (2-3 minutes) but it was a bit clumpy. I'm open to ideas, and thanks in advance! I've found that army painter daemonic yellow will get clumpy if there is a lot of moisture in the air (hot or cold) or if the spray itself is cold. I always store mine in the house as opposed to my shed now. Since then I've had no issues. Also GW is coming out with an averland sunset spray and I've never had issues with GW's sprays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Yeah, I'm guessing the new Averland Sunset spray should do the job. I too have had some trouble with Army Painter sprays, but GW's sprays tend to be much easier to work with plus they're a lot better for doing a relatively thin undercoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Yeah, I'm guessing the new Averland Sunset spray should do the job. I too have had some trouble with Army Painter sprays, but GW's sprays tend to be much easier to work with plus they're a lot better for doing a relatively thin undercoat. Just PRIME the mini before using that spray. It's just paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Frankly I've not seen much difference to speak of in terms of "primer" or just ye olde regular spray. On metal, perhaps, there even actual primers seem to fail constantly, but resin, or even more so plastic? Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Finally found a good (gray) primer at least in terms of evening out surface swirls and suchlike (those have always been my archenemy). Sadly it seems airbrushing Golden/Yriel Yellow directly on top of it gives a bit of a weird yellow, not like how it is on my Lysander. May have to do an Averland layer in between after all I guess. I hate having to do many layers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cephalopod Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Finally found a good (gray) primer at least in terms of evening out surface swirls and suchlike (those have always been my archenemy). Sadly it seems airbrushing Golden/Yriel Yellow directly on top of it gives a bit of a weird yellow, not like how it is on my Lysander. May have to do an Averland layer in between after all I guess. I hate having to do many layers. *cough* 50/50 mix P3 Hearthfire and Cygnus yellow over white p3 undercoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 That would require buying those paints, they're not really readily available here And white is eeeeviiilllll. The gray, however, looks so good that I feel bad painting anything over it! Hah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Frankly I've not seen much difference to speak of in terms of "primer" or just ye olde regular spray. On metal, perhaps, there even actual primers seem to fail constantly, but resin, or even more so plastic? Not so much. Uh. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Sigh, probably should've just gotten the yellow spray after all. It would've likely been "close enough" to the shade of yellow I want (while these Averland and Golden yellows appear too brownish when airbrushed anyway). As compared to this darned airbrush being more or less clogged when used with anything thicker than water. Took me well over half an hour just to paint the front panel, barrel, mantle and one side extra plate of a Vindicator with the airbrush. With a spray that would've been all of a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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