~Drakzilla~ Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Sometimes I like to flex my vocabulary muscles. But yeah, I'd say black and silver as opposed to the Black Legion's black and gold. 1. Silver is seen as the "opposite" or complement to gold, 2. Gold sums up the themes of the canon BL: a regal fury, a sense of grandeur and superiority. Meanwhile silver can represent the slightly different approach of Icarion's "followers" (in the sense that they want to destroy the Imperium): subtle, cold fury, elegance, mystique; a legion of sinister warriors. At least, this is what I gather from my impressions of the Harbingers vs. the Sons of Horus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 Well, I'm sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I'm also fine with Black, but the Canon black legion doesn't always have gold trim - abaddon's own contingent, the core of the black legion, always have gold (and that was gw's ultra equivalent) but other contingents are just as likely to have silver, white, bone, rainbows... abaddon's only rule is you replace your old colours with Black, and your old heraldry with the chaos Eye On the other hand, we would probably want to change the name: how about Black Host? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Sable Host? I wonder if anything can really fit in place of "Legion", however. That word is such an important thing, a declaration in its own way. Edited October 31, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Ebon Legion Omega Legion Nihilum Legion Mortis Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Just for fun: how about "legion of the damned"??? if not: shotgun!!! wardens of light successor!!!! Edited October 31, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuEru Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I have no voting right in this regard, but I had an idea while reading through your points: Black and Silver could work really well, to mirror the canon Black Legion, but still be different. (Especially with gold being THE color of the Emperor and the Imperial Aquila) ...and there could be a way for you to differentiate it from (canon) black color schemes. Your (Black) Legion Astartes will mostly wear their old, pre-heresy armors - just painted black, with optional chaosy trim or corruption - because they have to make-do with what they have and is available, correct? Now why not show that when painting battle damage (especially on the "poorer" rank-and-file Marines)? Similiar to FW's 30k Blackshields, let "old" Legion colors shine through the black layer here and there on some armor parts. Or where the armor is damaged, not only the bare ceramite is visible, but chipped, old paint at the edges, too. Another thing to differentiate between "specialization" among the Legionnaires, as to who is their favourite god (but not for full plague marines or somesuch) Use the silvery metal trim as an indicator. Blood? Khorne, obviously. Rust and Grime? Nurgle. Shining, colorful, bright silver with sweaty glaze? Slaneesh Blue shimmer, a rune flashing here and there, fine ley-lines? Tzeentch. Just... some random ideas. ~Drakzilla~, MikhalLeNoir, Doctor Perils and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) For Nurgle I suggest rust on the black and tarnish on the silver. Edited November 3, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 I seem to recall the Dornian Heresy deciding that Sigismund the Inheritor wouldn't take up the mantle of Warmaster, as it belonged to the arch-loyalist. Whether that was the case or not, I feel Raiden will feel the same way. How does Generalissimo of Chaos sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Waaaaaay too Italian. I'd go with something along the lines of Grand Marshall of Chaos Undivided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) I was actually thinking of what Shogun translates to: Supreme Generalissimo. I have to admit I've only seen it used in print referring to Chiang Kai-Sek But, fair enough Edited November 3, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Why not call himself Master? Master of Chaos, Master of the Armies of the true Empire. Master us always good. (But I would like Shogun oder Daimyo-> could have been an title of honor on madrigal for him and he simply repurposed the term) About fancy names: the emperor of japan gave himself fancy modern names after 1868 and during WW2. Maybe there is something to find. Edited November 3, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 Master is a bit vague. And, when there's a whole pantheon, to call oneself Master of Chaos seems a bit disingenuous. Shogun or Daimyo sounds good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I like Grand Marshall. Overlord may work too? Exemplar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I'd humbly suggest you look for a title that isn't so well-known. It breaks suspension of disbelief immediately. The reason why titles like "hetman" work so well despite being directly copy/pasted from our history is because they're not well-known. Also, using Shogun, Daimyo, or any other oft-used name comes across as being a tad lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Don't know if this might be important but the leader of House Toho bears the title of Shogun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Don't know if this might be important but the leader of House Toho bears the title of Shogun. LAAAAAAZY^^ But Dos is right. Maybe we should come up with a not so well known title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I'd actually recommend steering away from something to culturally conotated, since it's attributed to the leader of a force of diverse backgrounds - I can't see a Berserker of Uran or an Eagle Warrior bowing to a "Shogun", a "Daimyo" or a "Hetman". On the other hand, I would have no problem with a term from "low gothic" or "high gothic". Autocrat? Arch-[something] like Archroy, Archmarshal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Would Raiden maybe dare to call himself True Emperor? And those serving him have to adress him with the title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Perhaps Imperator? Given that it can mean general as well as Emperor. Or: Rex(king), Dux(leader), Principe(prince). Edited November 3, 2016 by Sigismund229 MikhalLeNoir 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Imperator is cool.^^ But could be a bit lazy^^. I mean...Imperator Edited November 3, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Sovereign sounds sufficiently ominous, but perhaps too close to Suzerain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 The Warlord? Simple, but gets the point across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 "Sovereign" has a nice ring to it. If you chaps don't use it, I certainly will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 I'd humbly suggest you look for a title that isn't so well-known. It breaks suspension of disbelief immediately. The reason why titles like "hetman" work so well despite being directly copy/pasted from our history is because they're not well-known. Also, using Shogun, Daimyo, or any other oft-used name comes across as being a tad lazy. A good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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