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David Annandale Grey Knights novel Grey Knights Chapter

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So anyone excited about this one?
 
I just pre-ordered and can't wait to hear the story of Crowe. smile.png

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Been excited for this trilogy since David dropped the first hints. I haven't cared that much for the Grey Knights since their Draigo-Codex hit, so I'm not as familiar with Crowe and co as I'd like to be. So yes, I'm looking forward to it.



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During the Grey Knight episode interview w/David he stoked my interest. I'll check it out, indeed.



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I want to be, but I find myself pretty cold on David Annandale's works these days. Death of Antagonis was a mess of ideas and execution, Damnation of Pythos felt like a pointless sideshow padding out an already bloated series, and the Sons of Titan collection just didn't engage me: I found the prose dry, the characters lackluster, and something about it as a whole package just didn't work for me.


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I feel that technically Annandale is better than the likes of Thorpe, Swallow, and Kyme

...though I do think out of these three, Kyme has shown a the most improvement

That said, I agree that Annandale's stuff is a bit too dry at times
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Grey Knights - meh. Their problem is the enemy they fight. From all the SM chapters/Legions they are the only one who hasn't killed at least 1 real enemy. All the daemons they banished, imprisoned would be back eventually - so all the struggle is pointless. 



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Grey Knights - meh. Their problem is the enemy they fight. From all the SM chapters/Legions they are the only one who hasn't killed at least 1 real enemy. All the daemons they banished, imprisoned would be back eventually - so all the struggle is pointless.

Couldn't you say the same about fighting 'Nids or Orks though?

It's better to stem the tide than let them overrun. Which is pretty much one of the main themes of 40k.

I do hope this book is good, I've wanted something on Crowe for a while.

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Grey Knights - meh. Their problem is the enemy they fight. From all the SM chapters/Legions they are the only one who hasn't killed at least 1 real enemy. All the daemons they banished, imprisoned would be back eventually - so all the struggle is pointless.

Couldn't you say the same about fighting 'Nids or Orks though?

It's better to stem the tide than let them overrun. Which is pretty much one of the main themes of 40k.

I do hope this book is good, I've wanted something on Crowe for a while.

 

As a story of a superhuman spirit dominance it would be good, I'm sure. As a story from the 'war' side of things  - we will see.



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Is it just me, or is it 10$ less on iTunes than BL?

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Is it just me, or is it 10$ less on iTunes than BL?


It's only £2.49 on iTunes 😃

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Is it any good? That seems like a lot of money to spend on a story.

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i havent started it yet, but it is not a short story, but a full novel or novella (i never remember the difference)



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i havent started it yet, but it is not a short story, but a full novel or novella (i never remember the difference)

It's a full novel



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It was pretty decent. Did a good job of delving into Crowe's mindset before he got the blade and after.



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Currently reading Annandale's Sons of Titan (well, what I haven't listened to yet at least), figured I'd like to get a feel of his GKs before going in for Crowe, who I know so little about.



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Is it just me, or is it 10$ less on iTunes than BL?

It's only £2.49 on iTunes 😃

I can't believe it was that cheap and I missed out the chance to get it.

It's back up to £9.99 now.

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I want to be, but I find myself pretty cold on David Annandale's works these days. Death of Antagonis was a mess of ideas and execution, Damnation of Pythos felt like a pointless sideshow padding out an already bloated series, and the Sons of Titan collection just didn't engage me: I found the prose dry, the characters lackluster, and something about it as a whole package just didn't work for me.

Hussah! At last someone sees Death of Antagonis and Damnation of Pythos for what they are.



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Well the book has started off okay.... so I wonder how many people have read it yet?


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Well the book has started off okay.... so I wonder how many people have read it yet?

 

OK standard is not what fans striving for ...



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Nah, they're striving for unrealistic standards. Not every book can be the most amazing. If everything's above average, nothing is.


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Nah, they're striving for unrealistic standards. Not every book can be the most amazing. If everything's above average, nothing is.

But still if you try you could write a masterpiece - look Wraight with 'Path of Heaven'



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I feel that technically Annandale is better than the likes of Thorpe, Swallow, and Kyme

...though I do think out of these three, Kyme has shown a the most improvement

That said, I agree that Annandale's stuff is a bit too dry at times

 

I think he goes on about the spiritual element too much and he is quite dry. I really have to push myself to finish anything David writes. Guess it's down to personal preference.

It's a mixed bag with BL too. Authors have good days and bad days and an author is only as good as his/her Editor.


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I actually think the spiritual themes are one of his strengths. Its not just spiritual in terms of religion (though he tackles it a lot with Word Bearers, Sororitas and even outside of BL with Gethsemane Hall and his Kaiju Rising short story), but also symbolism and figureheads affecting events beyond their human reach.

 

Its similar with Guilliman. A lot of Roboute Guilliman: Lord of Ultramar is about Roboute being a figurehead, and reflecting on what his presence means, and why he has to take relative risks in decisive moments. His preparations for abdictation too play into that theme, as does the contrast to how the Destroyers don't fully respect and recognize their new Chapter Master, whereas everyone respects Guilliman as their Primarch.

 

He dabbles in a lot of esoteric themes, and I think that makes him a good pick for writing Grey Knights.



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I just finished it. I didnt hate the authors other stuff, its written well enough but can be a struggle to finish.
In my opinion this book was a major disappointment. Dry bolter pron. If you have any questions about the dichotomy of a character like Crowe, this book doesnt just answer any of them, it doesnt even ask.

Id give it a 2/5.

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Finished it - for the point of soul struggle and waro influence it's deserve 5 stars. From the point of view of SM/GK/W40K novel it deserves 2.







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