GreyCrow Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hey guys! I'm on a trip and far from my Heresy rulebooks and I have a great opportunity for a Baneblade box. I remember that the Legiones could field some variants of the Baneblade chassis. I can't remember which exactly, but I'm curious as for your feedback on how the different available variants performed in Heresy battles! Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatMetalhead Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Baneblade: nice variant, optimal vs infantry, with the apocalictic blast, but it's really expensive, and to use the demolition cannon you have to get close-range, opening up the side faces, less durable than the front. Shadowsword: as far as i know the best (with the stormsword) of the 4 versions. 120" strength D large blast tears down vehicles without difficulties, and can remain in the back, protected by the rest of the army. Stormlord: it can seem a nice assalut transport, but you have to get near the enemy, leaving unprotected to enemy's antitank firepower your sides. As far as i know, the worst of the 4. Stormsword: the big cousin of the typhoon. Maxed out it has a 36" stregth 10 ap 2 ignore cover, apocalictic blast and 4 lascannons (along with 5 tl heavy bolters), making him devastating agains infantry and a pain in the back for the vehicles. My 2 poor cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Can't really go to far wrong with a baneblade in my experience. I use mine as a ride for orth so bs5 and tank hunter makes it more formidable than most expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Stormsword hands down. I've actually tested all variants out using a friend's Baneblade as the proxy for all tanks. The Stormsword is basically a superior Typhon, far nicer kit and cheaper. It has a delicate posterior but that makes it more fun lol, in truth it's easy to protect. The blast is so big you literally can't miss, and it's utterly devastating. I've actually managed to cover 20 models under one during a game. The Shadowsword is underwhelming. The D blast generally performs much worse over a game. 5/6 times people are still getting cover saves/invul saves against it, the blast is smaller and it can scatter easily, also you're hitting fewer models. Baneblade is a far inferior Fellblade and not much cheaper in points. I wouldn't bother. Stormlord is an amazing utility Super Heavy. You can transport an entire assault army in one but it can be chipped away. As you advance you leave the lower av sides exposed. Can definitely work though, and the main Gatling Cannon is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Baneblade has AP2 on main weapon large blast, the fellblade does not. Huge difference. The stormlord is a mobile bunker, but it does best if it doesn't move and you use it as a weapons platform. Since Astartes have good transport options and want to get close and have overcost infantry heavy weapons, it's not that useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I treated the Stormlord as a cheaper Mastodon when I played. It was nearly Destroyed early on, granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Is it worth paying for the extra set of sponsons for the Stormsword? I'm thinking of taking one of these to the Heresy London event next May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Is it worth paying for the extra set of sponsons for the Stormsword? I'm thinking of taking one of these to the Heresy London event next May I mean, if you've already paid 500+ what is an extra bit for moar dakka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The kit comes with two Lascannon and HB Sponsons, and they are 100% worth it. You only need to pop a Rhino and kill a few Marines for the Sponsons to earn their cost back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel Guy Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Do they come with a set of sponsons included in the starting price? There's so many 40k books with various versions of them in that I no longer know which is the most recent one. It's a total mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Using the escalation rules, they start with no sponsons, then it's extra for each set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It's 50 points for 2 Lascannons and 2 Heavy Bolters I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 They're all good. My fav two are the 'Sword and 'Lord. 40 transport capacity drifting up a flank and then eating it's was down the length of the board, unleashing the BRRRT, disgorging punchy units, with some plasma support inside unloading shots sounds delicious. Play Deja Vu for maximum effect. The 'Sword is a straight upgrade to the Typhon imho; Effective 48" range, bigger blast, and a suite of secondary weapons is pure pain. Sure they don't have max armor but they are super heavies and have 9HPs. The 'Sword can start in reserves, drive on in the right place, and hit anything on the board you want. The 'Lord needs to get close, but you don't have to drive it at the enemy guns in the dead center of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnwolf Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Having bought the baneblade kit I have a few questions if anyone could be so kind: Where would you find the up to date rules for StormSword - would it be the Escalation expansion? Is there any issue including it in a 30K legion? IS the Space Marine Crew upgrade an available option? Anyone know which bits not to glue in order to have a few of the different builds (primary use will be stormsword or shadowsword) Is the stormsword as effective at anti-tank as shadowsword given the strength and primary weapon status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Stormsword is in Escalation. It can take a Marine Crew as well, and it's a LoW for any Marine Legion. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to break down the points but the way I've built mine comes to 550. This includes the Stormsword with Marine Crew upgrade, and a pair of Las Cannons and Heavy Bolters in addition. 9 TL HB shots, 2 Las Cannons and the Apocalyptic Blast is pretty great. It's pretty effective at Anti Tank because of the Primary Weapon rule giving you two dice to roll for penetration, picking the highest. With Ignore cover there's a great chance to do damage and a 1/3 chance to outright destroy any Tank you pen. It's much better all round than the Shadowsword. The only changes you need to make to run a Shadowsword is the turret and the removal of the front hull Heavy Bolter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnwolf Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Thank you Ishagu, very helpful, will get building this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Ishagu you are inspiring me to convert my Falchion so I can also run it as a Stormsword. Can you still drop the sponsons and give it AV14 on the sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Unfortunately side armour is always 13 :-( Ahh don't covert a beautiful Falchion, just buy the Baneblade kit :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Thing is, I already have a Falchion I need to model. If I magnetize the main gun it should be pretty easy... provided I find a clever way to make the sponsons look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Anyone play around with the Stormhammer much? I'm building mine as we speak, looking forward to 'sploding loyalists with my Warp Cult list army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I've never seen one but I love the model and rules. If you take all Las Cannons it could be nasty but expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 That's the plan! :) Considering how cheap everything else in the list is, it works out. Hordes upon hordes as well as big ol' guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I feel like I must be missing something-the legion astartes army list book only has the stormblade listed as a LoW choice for 30k marines, so how is it that marines also have access to all these other baneblade variants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 You have the old book if the baneblade chassis aren't listed on the right side of page 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Aaa I see what you mean, I was looking near the back of the book under the LoW stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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