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Playing SW without TWC or Wulfen - viability?


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It is not possible to play against a COMPETITIVE list without TWC and Wulfen, I am a tournament player and will meet 4 Wraightknight lists with Jet Bikes and you will get tabled.

 

Now if someone has some secret SW list without TWC and Wulfen that can win post it. I had Ork players insist the codex can win, they have one win at a major tournament in 2 years! Then I pulled the Eldar list of top 5 finishes and it was two pages, ONE WIN FOR ORKS. Not competitive at all is a SW wolf list without TWC and Wulfen, you need a two turn close assault MAX to beat Tau and Eldar. You can literally be on them turn 1 with some builds, TURN ONE!

 

Now of course you can build a fun list, that's what I field against Orks. But Eldar and Tau will bring sick firepower or psychic support and table you in three turns.

 

The Helm of Durfast on a Rune Priest with a bunch of back up Rune Priests on bikes might work attached to a Wolf guard bike unit, I haven't given it a shot and neither has anyone else at a tournament and won that I know of.


Edited by krrenalor, 20 March 2017 - 07:11 PM.

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It is not possible to play against a COMPETITIVE list without TWC and Wulfen, I am a tournament player and will meet 4 Wraightknight lists with Jet Bikes and you will get tabled.
 
Now if someone has some secret SW list without TWC and Wulfen that can win post it. I had Ork players insist the codex can win, they have one win at a major tournament in 2 years! Then I pulled the Eldar list of top 5 finishes and it was two pages, ONE WIN FOR ORKS. Not competitive at all is a SW wolf list without TWC and Wulfen, you need a two turn close assault MAX to beat Tau and Eldar. You can literally be on them turn 1 with some builds, TURN ONE!
 
Now of course you can build a fun list, that's what I field against Orks. But Eldar and Tau will bring sick firepower or psychic support and table you in three turns.
 
The Helm of Durfast on a Rune Priest with a bunch of back up Rune Priests on bikes might work attached to a Wolf guard bike unit, I haven't given it a shot and neither has anyone else at a tournament and won that I know of.


Do you know anyone who has won a tournament with a SW list in the last 2 years regardless of build?

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Here you go Thewolflord http://bloodofkitten...ist-compendium/ Blood of Kittens keeps it updated.  The win GT win Space Wolf list in 7th edition is a Wolf star.  Disheartening, that the best of the best in the nation can't.  Maverk and I have agreed on a lot over the years, but land raiders and our bikes are definitely not winning us tournaments.  Last time I ran a land raider, I keep in 6th out of 24 in a tourney.  (Arjac and shield bros, small Thunderwolf squad (not a star/bs) and dreadnoughts)

 

I have been looking for new lists.  As I said on page one, I'm trying to work out an all dreadnought army, I just need more dreads.  But Iron hands and blood angels seem to do it better.  I ran Wyrdstorm in a small 750 point tourney, and it didn't go too well, except ironically against a barebones thunderwolf list.  750 is too small on points to support twc, so the poor fella didn't stand a chance.




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I used the Blood of Kittens list also, look at Orks and then Eldar, it is really disheartening.



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I've never played in a tournament, and never will.

 

I like to play a good game and give my opponent a challenge, but to me the game is an excuse to stand around a table with friends while drinking beer and swapping stories.

 

I don't like the aesthetics of TWC or Wulfen. I far prefer regular units like Grey Hunters, or, better yet, Champions of Fenris.

 

I like to think I am not the only person who prefers this style of play.






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