simison Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 My tech-wizard wife is guessing old age. What caught fire was the screen's power board. I did keep my old computer screen, so the biggest issue is getting used to the lower screen resolution right now. It's a little frustrating because I had been planning on getting my old Let's Play profile going when we first started to smell the burning. At least we now know what the problem is, and I can still stream as it is. So, we're good overall. It's just not everyday that one can legitimately say that their computer caught fire. bluntblade 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Glad to hear that nothing "worse" happened. But here are some tips for the next time. ;) I escpecially liked: Choose Charmander! :D bluntblade and simison 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) How do Destroyers work in Legion Organization? I have someone who requested I have the Destroyer commander get some screen time in Second Son, but I'm not sure how to go about it. Given that Destroyers are a specialist branch, would that mean they have a representative on the Praetorate? Or would a Chapter Master/Lord Commander have an additional duty in managing the Destroyers? EDIT: The idea I have right now is to have a former Destroyer who's achieved the rank of Praetor. Edited May 22, 2017 by simison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Pfft, Destroyer Praetors? Get behind Riktus in line. Anyways, I think they're like heavy weapons teams in that they're a specialist cadre rather than a specific ranking. 'Serkers put a lot of value on them and recruit many veterans into their ranks, I always imagined it to vary between Legions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 I know canon Khârn has a Destroyer sergeant, but the Eighth Assault Company are anomalous anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I was actually doing some work on the HW destroyers a while back in preparation for doing a story/section them. I made plenty of notes on how I though they would operate which I can send you or post if you like sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I was actually doing some work on the HW destroyers a while back in preparation for doing a story/section them. I made plenty of notes on how I though they would operate which I can send you or post if you like sim. I would appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Cut out the notes I made on more trivial details. Here are the main points: Organization Post-Alexandros -Officially organized into a seperate chapter/order, with their own Lord Commander, the Order of Fire. In addition to specializing in destroyer weapons use, are planetary assault specialists. -Unofficially, they are rarely deployed in "destroyer" units. Instead, squads or company sized(100 marines) units of destroyers are attached to other Halcyon Wardens units as specialist troops and fight under the command of the Captain or Lord Commander whose unit they are attached to. Because of this, by the late Great Crusade the Order of Fire was rarely listed on Vth legion Orders of Battle as a seperate order. -As the number of Delians in the legion increases, the size of the HW destroyer cadre shrinks relative to the size of the legion. With the number of volounteers shrinking, Alex introduces a system whereby the shortfall is made up by conscripting Halcyon Wardens into the Order of Fire for a 5 year tour of duty. At the end of this tour, they can either return to their old units or be reassigned to the destroyers permanently, depending on preference. -Because of this small sizend relatively spread out nature the destroyers were forced to throw out the old rulebook for legion organization. Given the amount of firepower they had at their disposal, they decided squads of 20 were too large and clunky for their purposes. So they broke them up into Combat Squads of 5, led by a Corporal. Within a squad, there would be two "support" combat squads, with two heavy weapons each, and two "assault" combat squads, with two power weapons or power fists. One support and one assault combat squad land in one drop pod. -The support combat squad provides covering fire while the assault combat squad takes ground. On the defensive, the support cs does the killing while the assault cs protects the support cs. -Order of Fire structure Combat squad: 5 marines led by a Corporal. Squad: 20 marines led by a Sergeant Company: 100 marines led by a Captain. Detachment: A unit of unstated size commanded by a Captain General. These could vary in size from two squads to several companies. Order of Fire: 7,500 destroyers commanded by a Lord Commander/Praetor. -Conscription: determined by lot. Halcyon Wardens who have never served in the destroyers before draw a stone from a pot. If its a black stone they become a destroyer, if its a white stone they stay a normal Halcyon Warden. Pre-Alexandros -Were largely well regarded as a unit and were seen as an elite unit. In this time, they were called Sturmtruppen rather than destroyers. -Wer seen as the legion's top troops and as such, almost all of the early legion's higher echelons of officers had previously served in the destroyers. -Went into battle inside tanks. The tanks punched a hole in the enemy linr and then the destroyers emerged from the tanks with jump packs and moved to exploit the breach made by the tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Note: the Martian Big Three of Mortis, Ignatum and Tempestus are actully called the Triad Ferrum Morghulis. We need Ignatum and Mortis detachments alongside a couple of Legions given that, along with Tempestus, they were probably the first available to the Emperor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) I'm a little confused. Wouldn't that lore be better fit for assault companies as opposed to destroyers? Sturmtruppen certainly aren't known for their chemical warfare, and I don't see Alexandros caring enough to actively maintain destroyer contingents. In canon, who do Ignatum and Mortis serve with? Edited May 22, 2017 by simison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I'm a little confused. Wouldn't that lore be better fit for assault companies as opposed to destroyers? Sturmtruppen certainly aren't known for their chemical warfare, and I don't see Alexandros caring enough to actively maintain destroyer contingents. In canon, who do Ignatum and Mortis serve with? Well, destroyers would be necessary sometimes so maintaining a small number of them would allow the HW greater flexibility as a fighting force. Sturmtruppen weren't known for chemical warfare but then practically no fighting force is. They were known though for heavy use of relatively new technology like hand grenades and flamethrowers that wasn't readily available to most units, like destroyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Mortis was definitely with Horus, can't remember Ignatum though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Mortis was definitely with Horus, can't remember Ignatum though. Ignatum were loyalists. They helped defend Paramar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Sigi, you're thinking Gryphonicus. Ignatum don't seem to appear yet in non-Webway engagements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 With a name like Ignatum, wouldn't they be a natural ally to the Fire Keepers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 ^I dig it, it's fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Hey guys, just writing a post to say that I'm currently struggling to keep motivated for this project (due to large amounts of school-work and other chaos-y distractions). I don't know what this means for the future of the Lost Angels or my contribution to the Insurrection project, but I figured I should let you know. Cheers, foamy248 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Hey guys, just writing a post to say that I'm currently struggling to keep motivated for this project (due to large amounts of school-work and other chaos-y distractions). I don't know what this means for the future of the Lost Angels or my contribution to the Insurrection project, but I figured I should let you know. Cheers, foamy248 Just take your time and return when you can refocus. Or have an idea to develop the lost angels further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 With a name like Ignatum, wouldn't they be a natural ally to the Fire Keepers? Well, the Fire Keepers have Tonarum. We'll see if Demus likes the idea. If anyone fancies their guys buddying up with Atarus, that would annoy Mars somewhat (in canon they were passed around, took a beating on Gardinaal with the Ultras and used callously by Horus in one battle). We should go over relations between ourmown Legions and Mars. Off the top of my head I can only name Gojira, but I could see them being viewed as peculiar (and that's before the Scioms are seen to be palling around with some oddball samurai Knights). I also wonder if House Zivich would be resented. Gonna look at their origins again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Thematically, legio Astorum being attached to the IV Legion feels right. Experimental tech, going fast, and teleporting indecent amounts of firepower. Xestobiax I think should remain dust on Prospero, though the unexplained acquisition of a few God-Machines by the Drownes after the catastrophe may be noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 I'll look up the latter. Actually, what are the VE's relations with the Mechanicus like? I was gonna say we should have some of our own Forge Worlds and lack some canon ones (especialy if they sit in the Qarith Empire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 So Astorum get results, but are likely seen as eccentric - unless anyone can tell me otherwise from HH books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlindPrimarch Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Hey guys just letting you know that I've not been lost to the Warp. The Iron Gauntlet challenge has been eating up my focus lately. With the first challenge complete I should be able to finish a couple of the writing projects I've been working on soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Cool, no worries mate. In a little over a week's time I'll be off kayaking for a few weeks. I'm finishing what I can now, as I don't anticipate getting much done in June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 To foamy and Blind, no worries. Feel free to take things at your own pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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