Waking Dreamer Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Oh man I'm just dying now.... I think he looks great, and the bad news is I could see using him for a few models in the army, but not at "triumvirate pricing"! I also am curious if he can really be as potent as Draigo for the points. I mean really Draigo is an incredible unit onto himself. This guy better be pretty amazing... or be 200 points you can't live without (IE: Celestine-esque). He's actually the best of BOTH world's - with people hoping for a special GK Librarian, or the return of a special GM character. He should be a kickass Librarian so...stock ML3? But he's also a GM with a (unique?) Daemon Hammer so...3-4 wounds AND 3-4 attacks base? Will he compete with Draigo I wonder, I know Draigo is the tank and delivery system of our army and would have a different role to this new guy, but Im thinking 200 points would be about the cost of him, so what are the chances people will be fielding Voldus and Draigo together in say an 1850pt game? I mean, if he has great synergy with Draigo could he they be an even more potent combo than Celestine-Draigo? Or how about if he FINALLY buffs our physic phase (eg. being warlord allows all GKs to harness powers on a 3+). So, what role do people want him to have in our army? At what points cost are you willing to pay for it? Would you be willing to drop a Dreadknight to fit him in or even Draigo? Or if you want him to sync well with Draigo in what way would it be as to finally take our army to the next level? For a GK player his model is already tops, but thinking about the possibilities his rules could have what do you guys want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I'm actually annoyed we got this leak. Means we have to wait in anticipation for longer! Plus I doubt he'll be over pml 2. I bet he's literally stern in stats, just different rules and a hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 I think if he's a Grandmaster he could very well be ML3, BUT I will take ML 2 with built in re-rolls over that. If he has a unique psychic power, that's got potential too, and is very likely. (thinking of Greyfax here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughn Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 If he comes with stock powers, I'm hoping one of those is Sanctuary. The ability to have a guaranteed way of boosting the survivability of Terminators and Paladins is massive. Also I'm switching out that Head for a Paladin helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Well the eldar are getting a new psychic discipline in GS:2 (because they need another...) maybe we will too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Well, the best part, he is probably the least desired of the set in general, which means he should be the highest in quantity floating around on eBay next month. Great for any GK player. I was in the middle of deliberating what models I would buy for about 150-200points to fill out my current GK army but this answer that question fast. As for the helmet option, I'm thinking he won't come with one, so curious for either GK termie helmets or paladin ones...What would you put? One poster already prefers a paladin, how about the rest of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 I think you're right... the Grey Knight character will probably be the most numerous on ebay.... but then again I bet more people ally Grey Knights, then actually play Ultra's so it's tough to say really. Plus we really don't know what role Cypher plays in all of this. He might be a subplot device more than a 'must have' character. It's really hard to say. I know this sounds petty but I'm -really- hoping for a side effect of this Grey Knight character to be some sort of fresh formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 One can only hope. It seems GW finally remembered we exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I know this sounds petty but I'm -really- hoping for a side effect of this Grey Knight character to be some sort of fresh formation. Well I know I'm hoping for too much, but it would be nice if he comes with something that buffs our paladins (since they're in the picture). Our paladins really should be awesome. I hope they become "better" at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I know this sounds petty but I'm -really- hoping for a side effect of this Grey Knight character to be some sort of fresh formation.Well I know I'm hoping for too much, but it would be nice if he comes with something that buffs our paladins (since they're in the picture). Our paladins really should be awesome. I hope they become "better" at least. While we are hoping.. screw it... let's hope for awesome like they should be =D At worst they'll remain the same... I mean it's not like they can get worse... right?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment ;) - Games Workshop, writing FAQ's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelorthus Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 If Hope and Disappointment are connected by a road does that mean that you can start at Disappointed and work your way back toward Hope?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrom Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Well so far in the new campaign every release of kick ass character trio was with new formations including these new characters affiliated armies.So we have good chances to see a formation including GK and other space marines. I don't think we will have GK only formations though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMostGood Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 It's gonna be like the Two books before. An HQ and two troop choice CAD option with 0-3 for all other slots. Pick between grey Knights, ultra marines and dark Angels. There will be a few formations for each group. That's it. The big take away will be the CAD option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Not sure how Guilliman would take to the GK's "no witnesses" policy. He certainly wouldn't submit to mind-wiping and I suspect he wouldn't be too happy about Voldus applying that to his comrades (or purging however many Guard regiments he has fighting with him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMostGood Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 He may not have a problem with it. They kept the threat of chaos pretty close to the vest before the heresy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 He may not have a problem with it. They kept the threat of chaos pretty close to the vest before the heresy. That could be a factor against Guilliman agreeing to such a policy now: "If the Emperor had explained the threat of Chaos to us, maybe we would have recognised it and known not to fall for it." We don't see Guilliman espousing such policies during the Heresy, though that could just be that he hadn't grasped quite the insidious extent of the threat. His actions during the Scouring are likely to tell us how he'd react to a GK asking to purge apparently loyal guardsmen etc, but not sure we've any recent lore about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It's not a GK policy, it's an Ordo Malleus policy. SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Greywolf Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Depending on his set powers, he might even be a good REPLACEMENT for Draigo in a GK Star. A PML3 Libby with DLD will usually get Gate anyhow, making Draigo's redundant. I'm excited to see how it pairs with Celestine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMostGood Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I bet he will be classified as a MC. He will probably have a lot of support auras and a couple of unique rules that buff troops. He was a great tactician right? He will still pack a punch in combat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Depending on his set powers, he might even be a good REPLACEMENT for Draigo in a GK Star. A PML3 Libby with DLD will usually get Gate anyhow, making Draigo's redundant. I'm excited to see how it pairs with Celestine. Honestly I'd feel a bit ripped off by that. Only because Draigo is one of the best infantry tanks in the game, and now we have Celestine. So to me this would feel like more of the same. I bet he will be classified as a MC. He will probably have a lot of support auras and a couple of unique rules that buff troops. He was a great tactician right? He will still pack a punch in combat though. An MC means... no transport, and not able to join units. I just don't want to see a full repeat of Celestine rules bashed with Belasarius. I know it will happen to some degree but really the army effect is what I look forward to the most. For example I think one thing we could agree on is if Voldus improved, or complimented Paladins in some way that would probably be a welcome change to the state they're in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiasco Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I'm absolutely torn between using my old Stern model as a proxy Voldus (replacing his sword with a hammer and probably finally sawing off his choppy chop hand and throwing on some other hand) or getting Voldus great model. While I appreciate how cool Voldus looks, I'm also a stingy . Hence my conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Voldus looks like my Mordrak. /tears SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiasco Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Well, I've made my decision. Stern gets his hand chopped off, and possibly his head as well, and will be used as a sixth paladin. The Voldus model is just too pretty to turn down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Am i the only one who doesn't like voldus? To me he looks no better than someone i could kit bash with the usual gk tda box. The new cypher on the other hand. Down right amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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