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Retired ship classes - looking for info


malika666

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Hi everybody,

 

Been scouring Lexicanum and found a whole bunch of ship classes which were used by the Legions in the past, but Lexicanum itself doesn't mention anything else besides that. Could anybody fill me in with more info (weapon configurations and role/function mainly) on these ships.

 

The ones I've encountered so far:

 

* Venom Class Destroyer

* Eclipse Class Light Cruiser

* Gladius Class Light Cruiser

* Bulk Cruiser

* Infernus Class Heavy Cruiser

* Retribution Class Battlecruiser (I'm guessing this is just a mistake and should be a Retribution Battleship?)

* Dictatus Class Battleship

* Infernus Class Battleship

* Lunar Class Battleship (Probably also a mistake since the Lunar is a Cruiser?)

 

I think the Horus Heresy books by Forge World also include a few specific classes which we haven't seen in the official rules before.

 

So yeah, any help would be useful!

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Okay, there are three threads, they are basically continuations of each other, so I will list the threads in chronological order.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268540-crusade-era-starships/

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268542-fleets-of-the-heresy/?hl=%20fleets

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280662-fleets-of-the-heresy-iii/?p=3470459

Due to the setting, there will be a massive amount of data to go through, but basically anything that made an appearance in the Heresy series up until September of 2015 it looks like, should be in there.

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Okay, there are three threads, they are basically continuations of each other, so I will list the threads in chronological order.

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268540-crusade-era-starships/

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268542-fleets-of-the-heresy/?hl=%20fleets

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280662-fleets-of-the-heresy-iii/?p=3470459

 

Due to the setting, there will be a massive amount of data to go through, but basically anything that made an appearance in the Heresy series up until September of 2015 it looks like, should be in there.

I'm familiar with these threads, I've provided a lot of info for these (together with the members of the The First Expedition forum). I will scour through them, maybe they've got some additional info.

 

@Xenith: I'm not interested in the current BFG ships, the rules and weapon load outs for those classes are already known. I was curious about the ships mentioned in the HH BL/FW books which don't have official rules (yet).

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Okay, there are three threads, they are basically continuations of each other, so I will list the threads in chronological order.

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268540-crusade-era-starships/

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/268542-fleets-of-the-heresy/?hl=%20fleets

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/280662-fleets-of-the-heresy-iii/?p=3470459

 

Due to the setting, there will be a massive amount of data to go through, but basically anything that made an appearance in the Heresy series up until September of 2015 it looks like, should be in there.

I'm familiar with these threads, I've provided a lot of info for these (together with the members of the The First Expedition forum). I will scour through them, maybe they've got some additional info.

 

@Xenith: I'm not interested in the current BFG ships, the rules and weapon load outs for those classes are already known. I was curious about the ships mentioned in the HH BL/FW books which don't have official rules (yet).

I provided page numbers for most of those ships, so you should be able to find them in either the source tables or the original posts.

 

For the most part, you aren't going to find much except that the Infernus class has a nova cannon.

 

The BFG rules would actually be good for making logical leaps since Imperial weaponry is pretty standard. IIRC, the only ships that were really weird in their loadout were the Murder class with its all plasma weaponry and the Acheron class with its all energy lances.

 

Pretty much your safest bet is standard broadsides with dorsal lances and bow torpedoes. That's usually what is implied.

 

I believe one of the last posts in the third thread, someone mentioned BFG making rules for the Gloriana class, but there weren't too many of those. I think we were even given a specific number in one of the books.

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There was one Gloriana class per legion as they were the Primarchs' flagships (the AL had 2 though)

Actually, it looks like only seventeen of the Legions had Glorianas, with the AL having two, and the Imperial Army having one called the Amphion. Apparently the Imperial Fists did not have a Gloriana class. Or if they do/did, it has not been seen as of yet. But at the moment, the number is nineteen.

 

According to both Lexicanum and Warhammer 40K. I'm about two years out of touch on the background so I'm slowly catching up.

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Was just reading FWs HH book 4 Conquest, and it mentions that the Goliath and Legatus were being phased out in favour for the Gloriana and Victory. So maybe there were more Glorianas about with the Legions having specially desinged ones like the Iron Blood and been designated Glorianas.

 

I kinda wish that there would be more info on the ships used in the Great Crusade and Heresy.

 

 

 

Edit: There is also this list, doesn't show weapons but it shows classes and types.

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Great minds think alike! msn-wink.gif

Got some more info from The First Expedition since I've also started a thread there:

The Venom, if I recall from Pharos, is a smaller destroyer. Armed with torpedoes, but with a relatively small magazine capacity she can only fire a few volleys.

The Infernus Heavy Cruiser seems to function more as a line of battle vessel, based solely on the Diamat space battle in Fallen Angels.

The Gladius, again based solely on the mention in Deathfire (I think) appears to operate well as a lone wolf raider. My guess is that it is related to the 40k Gladius frigate, so probably fairly similar in weapons load out.

Will see if I can dig out any other details.

The Infernus-class battleship is noted as being armed with a spinal exo-las weapon, which is basically the Space Battleship Yamato's Wave-Motion Gun.

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