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Shadow War: Armageddon

Shadow War: Armageddon

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Thanks for the rundown Not 1 Step!  It sounds pretty good.  Hopefully the success of this game will lead to real Necromunda with a more advanced resource mechanic and territory control.  I miss the old campaign system.  Also, hopefully we'll start getting even more kill team options, like tactical squads, DEldar warriors, etc.


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Just read thru the Shadow War: Armageddon book.  It slightly exceeded my expectations.

 

 

Just my thoughts, been staying up reading this.  Really pleased with this game.

 

*Note - I mentioned Terminators a few times.  In case you're not familiar with 2nd ed rules, Terminators get a 5++ Invuln save, but also a 3+ (that's right, 3+) armour save...on 2D6 instead of 1D6.  They also apply Fear.  I'm a little bit afraid of them, alright.

 

 

No no no.. you are doing it all wrong!  You're supposed to make me HATE this game and completely NOT want to buy.  Even if I could go to a FLGS.

Now you've got me checking ebay prices. 

This might not end well.

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I'm working on a proper in depth Horus Heresy campaign and rules supplement for the main rules I'll be posting on the board that you can set on Istvaan or any other war torn world of the Heresy or even potentially regular 40k marines.
The truth of it all at the end of the day is that as long as you can get your gaming buddies to agree and it's balanced then home brewed rules are not a taboo thing, GW has always actively encouraged it.

If you need any help with that or just general feedback or whatnot gimme a shout, its quite close to something I have in mind as well.

Will do mate. :)

I've got an amazing system worked out and I'm currently typing it up and putting together the art work for the sheets right now. It works as a reverse to Shadow War where you start out at full strength then have to keep your squad alive and at full fighting capacity with a more in depth campaign between matches events and management system. I'll post it on the board sometime soon.

One thing I am seriously hoping is that they go to the trouble of getting the rules in print, I don't mind missing out on the terrain and can make my own counters but just get us the rules in an actual book! :tu:

Starting at full strength is a great idea! Already I wanna try out what your working on.

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Hang on... Where the hell is my rapid fire on marines?

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Hang on... Where the hell is my rapid fire on marines?


MWAHAHAHAHA!

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Hang on... Where the hell is my rapid fire on marines?

Same place every rapid fire went...somewhere reall really dark.

 

....there is no rapid fire etc. in SW:A. Only one shot weapons, sustained fire: x and weapons that do d3/d6 damage. ;)


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Pistols rock - really.

Don't need that much range, can dual wield with cc weapon, can use pistol profile in cc, sometimes +2 to Hit at short, and cheaper.
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So does anyone know the rules for dual handed and unreliable???
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Well, despite hitting the local GW at midnight to grab one of the few boxes available, I am without a copy of this game.
To their credit, the staff were great, but there were just too many people wanting it.
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Sigh...In Necromunda marines came with the rapid fire skill.
It was a marine only thing in 2nd ed. Except for the necro shooting skill. Rapid fire with storm bolters was a beautiful thing...sniff.

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Dual Handed just means you can only make attacks with that weapon, instead of splitting attacks normally.

 

Unreliable is if you roll a double 1 on an ammo roll, you take a hit from the weapon with a strength of -1 and at the same armor mod. So a shoota would be S3, a Plasma Gun at Maximal Power S6, etc.


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What's the advantage to new recruits other than being marginally cheaper? The difference in points, especially after gear, seems razor thin for the stat difference.

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Thats the advantage, they are cheaper :) 

As ill get my copy Monday can anyone share what the claw rule does?


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Yeah there is not much more to recruits. They are cheaper. Tau for example could get two barebones Pathfinder recruits for the 100p or one well equipped Pathfinder trooper. ^^


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I'm very happy to pay more for plastic miniatures with more details tho to be honest. :D

Like i said before after having a close look on those new thousand sons, i lost all the will to buy regular SM.

You're lack of zeal is blasphemously disturbing.
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After flicking through RoC - Lost and the Damned Im now trying to figure out how to a Chaosy 'Path to Glory' using these rules.

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After flicking through RoC - Lost and the Damned Im now trying to figure out how to a Chaosy 'Path to Glory' using these rules.

Simple.
Instead of getting Promethium you get Favour of the Gods points and when you reach 15 you play another final mission and you win it your Leader is ascended to Daemon Prince and you win the campaign...
Alternative could ve that your Leader start from marine stats and you must improve him to Daemon Prince stats then play further games in wich he have to kill the opposite leader to gain the DP status and win the campaign...
Apply this to a campaign Using just CSM bands battling each other to gain the Dark Gods favour and you get sonething really cool... ;)
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What's the advantage to new recruits other than being marginally cheaper? The difference in points, especially after gear, seems razor thin for the stat difference.

 

It depends on the faction.  With Scouts and Guardsmen, it's an incremental difference.  But with Orks, for example, a New Recruit is half the points cost of a Trooper.

 

What's more, a lot of the game uses blocks of 100 points.  After a mission, you get 100 points to replenish your team members (and another 100 for gear), use it or lose it, cannot be hoarded.  A Scout is exactly 100 points, obviously the better choice.  For Orks, a Trooper is 60 points (still uses up that full block), where as the New Recruit Ork is 30 points (so you can get 3 New Recruits vs. just 1 Trooper Ork).  Or mix and match, 1 Ork Trooper + 1 Ork Recruit that just happens to fit in that threshold.  Suddenly, the Recruit seems more meaningful in certain armies over others.

 

It seems no accident.  I was helping another Brother and came to realise Shadow War's mechanics are meant to be balanced over a campaign, where all sides suffer losses, it's how you manage force depletion.  I'm noticing, as if to reflect how rigid and bureaucratic the Imperium is, the Imperial forces don't get much flexibility (like how Orks do above).


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Gotcha! I suppose part of it has been just looking at the PDF forces where often it's like 70 vs 80 points or some such.
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The box comes with the:

Alchomite Stack.
Galvanic Magnavent.
Ferraronic Furnace.

And a second set of gantries (two half pie) and barriers from the Ferratonic Furnace set (but not a second furnace itself).
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