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FW answers on Inferno queries by mail


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Damn guys massive shocker from over heresy30k. A member shared fw answers to questions that are clear cut and not a 'that's how we play it' or 'roll a dice'.

I'll share the full answers later since I'm out but here's the link:

http://heresy30k.inv...no/#entry180641

Affecting us in particular:
- Huscarls can take Great frost blade
- No, never a terminator can have hit and run from the Pale Hunter row, any unit with at least one model in Terminator armor of any kind loses the ability
- And wait for this.,, the Kharybdis is not classed as a drop pod so we can take it in the Pale Hunter Row. That's a shocker imo and gives significant more flexibility to the rite.
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I'll just ignore that point about Deathshroud. They have said in the past that you CAN CHOOSE between cata and tartaros, the models clearly have tartaros and NOT indomitus, this would be just a big nerf for them so I call nurgle on that comment.


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The illustrious lady Atia. Thanks for the quality content in war of sigmar and battle bunnies.

I understand your point. Imo they're clearly in Tartaros but I think they are walking away from the option to choose one or either at least since in the new sekhmet it's so clearly stated they can vs all the other examples.
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The illustrious lady Atia. Thanks for the quality content in war of sigmar and battle bunnies.

I understand your point. Imo they're clearly in Tartaros but I think they are walking away from the option to choose one or either at least since in the new sekhmet it's so clearly stated they can vs all the other examples.

Howdy and thanks =)

 

While true, it's obvious the Deathshroud rules got copied and pasted from their first entry over and over again - back than Tartaros = Indomitus = all other non cataphractii types. So it should be either "only Tartaros" or "Tartaros or Cataphractii". Good for me - rules are just a framework and my bunnies are fine with Deathshroud Cataphractiis.

 

Regarding the Sekhmet - that's also a doubtful answer. I doubt they loose their combi bolters and run around with twin-chainfists ...^^


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Yes, we should take it with a grain of salt, but considering how well constructed and clear cut the answers are I wouldn't be surprised if an official faq is on the way.

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The Sehkmet equipment answer is highly ridiculous and together with a few other answers throws a shade of insincerity over the whole thing...


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The Sehkmet equipment answer is highly ridiculous and together with a few other answers throws a shade of insincerity over the whole thing...


Oh I thought Sekhmet really needed a free attack and the ability to alternate between lighting claws and power fists at any time for 0 cost.....

I'm honestly not sure what some of these responses are cause some seem ridiculous.

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Yeah, no. E-mail replies haven't been legitimate rulings for a long time now and I don't see why that would change over these.

 

Some of these answers wouldn't surprise me, but some are pretty out there, and some have had previous, contradictory responses (from e-mailed questions!). These might as well be house rule clarifications that you can choose to use.

 

That said, I'd still keep e-mailing them big question lists. Eventually they'll compile answers for the most commonly asked questions & suggestions for a real FAQ or red book update. 



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So Sekhmet must have three arms each... Flesh Change ?
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It's absolute nonsense, Gorgon's are flat out stated in the FAQ and the red book to have gorgon armour and this gives them standard. It seems like the answers are all in this vein of ridiculousness.



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Most of them are the RAW.
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Emails aren't official, but hopefully we'll get a damn FAQ soon.


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I just hope that when they go over and FAQ these Q&A's they don't go to these latest e-mail replies and use them as answers.

 

I'm with Atia as soon as I read the comments on the Deathshroud... that sealed the fate of the validity of that e-mail response to me.



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For me it was the no hit magnus+invisibility stack, and the Sekhmet getting a free paired lightning claw/powerfist/chainfist for extra attacks. 


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You can't really blame them for the invis thing IMO - rules as written it's exactly as it should be (though awful).

 

It's the other things that contradict what has been said previously that are worse.


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Honestly indominus pattern terminator armor shouldn't even exist in 30k since it just creates confusion over some unit entries. Plus it's straight up worse then both of the other terminator armor types.
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Honestly indominus pattern terminator armor shouldn't even exist in 30k since it just creates confusion over some unit entries. Plus it's straight up worse then both of the other terminator armor types.

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And this is why answers from FW email responses are meaningless, they contradict each other.

 

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Please note, this is not me saying that Sekhmet getting to choose their powers is gospel, I'm using this response to show that FW rules email responses are nothing more than a helpful interpretation from the guy responding. Not indicative of a a FAQ inbound, and certainly not the final ruling. 

 

This is just another in a long line of contradictions from FW, because it's never the rules department responding. It is always just the guy answering emails trying to help by giving his impression of the answer to your question.

 

So please, leave your biases at the door, and just accept that these email "answers" are pretty much equivalent to some groups house rules.


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Haha wait til sturguard sees that email... lol.
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Honestly indominus pattern terminator armor shouldn't even exist in 30k since it just creates confusion over some unit entries. Plus it's straight up worse then both of the other terminator armor types.

 

Or they should just make actual rules for them


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In 40k there is a relic suit of indomitus armor that converts to 2++ for one turn.
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What rules would make Indomitus not a worse Tartaros? Extra shooting phase or BS bonus for improved targeting systems? Rerolls against poison/rad due to more efficient shielding?

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I'd say give them reroll to hit rolls of 1. Represents the more advanced targeting servos.

 

Course that's a load of :cuss but it works.


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I'd give indomitus native deepstrike and/or augur scanners natively.

 

Gives them a unique niche that the other suits wouldn't have.


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