Augelmir Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Hoy! What do you guys do for making veterans? I have thought of either kitbashing scions and regulat cadians or gor catachan bits. Dont want to have them stand out to much from the rest of my army (wich is cadian camo themed using the current GW modell range). Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingDeth Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 If they're not wearing carapace armor it could be as simple as a swap for the scion beret heads. They'll fit in just fine and the different colored fancy hats will let them stand out from a distance. You could also give them more kit, go through the effort of reposing them, give them fancier bases, give them more battle damage...the possibilities are endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 If you don't mind paying out more than what a new squad of Shock Troops cost... Veteran Upgrade Kit. Cadian upgrade kit. Cadians with respirators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 The great thing with Vets is that you can do so many things modelling them up, it's a real opportunity to do something different and special compared to the rank and file :D I raid the CCS boxes of both the Cadian and Catachan kits (the Catachan infantry box is not as well scaled, sadly) - add in some extra bits from the box like some Space Marine weapons and blades and you have some grizzled survivors who look different but still fit the theme of your army :) Alternatively as Arbitration has said it's an excuse to do something quite different, and the Forge World sets can really help there :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 The forge world stuff would be nice for variety anyways... especially once you start pushing closer to 200 or more infantry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I have a mix of veterans. One of my veteran units are converted Skitarii to represent heavily 'repaired' tyranid hunter veterans (they were taken to a mechanicus world and were fixed up by the mechanicus after they had been severely wounded in battle with tyranids... lots of amputations and burns). They are completely different to everything else in my army because of their special nature (their metal bodies represent carapace armour): http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/Inso/GW%20Squats/Squat%20Veteran%20Tyranid%20Hunters/SquatWIP124_zpsigdag6ji.jpg My other veteran unit is made up entirely of standard troops but with female heads wearing berets (still WIP): http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/Inso/GW%20Squats/Squat%20Veteran%20Ladies/SquatVet4_zpsllsu84nw.jpg So I have the two ends of the spectrum with my veterans. The thing is that as long as you can add a bit of a reason why they look like they do, then you can pretty much use what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I forgot you had a squat army... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I forgot you had a squat army... It's still just the principal of putting together veterans... a simple headswap or a complete change of design (with a bit of backstory) and anywhere in between :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I forgot you had a squat army... It's still just the principal of putting together veterans... a simple headswap or a complete change of design (with a bit of backstory) and anywhere in between :) Yep. Just glad somebody is keeping the squats around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augelmir Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Thanks everyone great advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 There's some good cadian scion kitbashes on this subforum from memory ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minigiant Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I sculpt camo smocks onto them, just extra kit supplied to the best men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Master Flex Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I just have a load of the old metal ones for my veterans, Ebay is your friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I kitbash mine with parts from the command squad, leman russ (well the tank commanders) and heavy weapon boxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Titus Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I simply just took the beret heads from the scion box, trimmed the ball bit down (who had the brilliant idea not to make IG bodies and Scion heads compatible?!) and stuck them on. They fit right in with my army but are different enough to notice that they are veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 That's probably got more to do with the cadian torso / head joint being a legacy design. Nothing a hobby knife can't solve. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Much power is derived from the fanciness of one's hat.... I just built a shotgun + flamer Vet squad using the simple beret heads from the Scion kit, as others have pointed out. Simple (need a little neck shaving to fit), yet effective. Otherwise my standard Veterans all have the large-Aquila chest pieces, as well having holstered laspistols and the sunglass heads from HWT kits. Cuz Veterans can afford Ray Bans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I need to check out more scions... because the gw scheme and the way they made them I really don't like... but I don't see kasrkin being to available anytime soon in plastic. Seams like there are plenty of bits in there for vets... shotguns will come from scouts tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I need to check out more scions... because the gw scheme and the way they made them I really don't like... but I don't see kasrkin being to available anytime soon in plastic. Seams like there are plenty of bits in there for vets... shotguns will come from scouts tho... I've done shotguns from scouts....but to be honest, the proportions look a bit off IMO. I think they are a good start for human-grade bolters or some other type of weapon. I've used the tacti-cool shotguns from Genestealer Cults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I need to check out more scions... because the gw scheme and the way they made them I really don't like... but I don't see kasrkin being to available anytime soon in plastic. Seams like there are plenty of bits in there for vets... shotguns will come from scouts tho... The GW scheme chosen for Scions does a real disservice! The Taroux and Scions are actually really neat models. You just need the right colours on them ;) /shameless plug http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317654-a-mordian-march-to-glory/page-3?do=findComment&comment=4444719 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 That's how GW works now though duz - create a new kit and then contrive to paint it in a poor scheme with the worse picture they can manage :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inso Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I need to check out more scions... because the gw scheme and the way they made them I really don't like... but I don't see kasrkin being to available anytime soon in plastic. Seams like there are plenty of bits in there for vets... shotguns will come from scouts tho... The GW scheme chosen for Scions does a real disservice! The Taroux and Scions are actually really neat models. You just need the right colours on them /shameless plug http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317654-a-mordian-march-to-glory/page-3?do=findComment&comment=4444719 That's how GW works now though duz - create a new kit and then contrive to paint it in a poor scheme with the worse picture they can manage I actually quite like the 'Ultramarines PDF' colour scheme that is on the GW website :( That said, I think a very dark paintscheme would suit them well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Hey guys anyone had modelled the Scions without the backpack and the hot shot gun power cable? Any pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero88 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Not sure about scale, but I think these would look good for Carapace Vets http://bitsofwar.com/home/19-guardsmen-armoured-torsos-backpacks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morroccomole Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 As mentioned before, I model my vets with just the Scion beret heads. They come with facial hair, augmetics, and earrings etc, so they can really stand out as "above" the normal guardsmen if your highlight that. One other thing I did was use the static torso + legs combo of the Valkyrie door gunners as the Sergeant/Voxcaster command team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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