Noxnoctis22 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm currently using GW Citadel metallic paints but they're running low and I need to re-up. I'm thinking of switching to the newer metallic paints. Auric Armour Gold -> Liberator Gold Runefang Steel -> Stormhost Silver I was wondering how close in color the new ones are the the "old" ones I have. Also what is the main difference in the type of paint it is. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Liberator is very similar to Auric, very nicely complents the gorgeous Retributor Armour gold (warm pure gold). Stormhost is more like old Mithril, very pure silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm currently using GW Citadel metallic paints but they're running low and I need to re-up. I'm thinking of switching to the newer metallic paints. Auric Armour Gold -> Liberator Gold Runefang Steel -> Stormhost Silver I was wondering how close in color the new ones are the the "old" ones I have. Also what is the main difference in the type of paint it is. Thanks. I actually made this exact switch. Both of the new white top AoS Layer metallics are very nice and thin. They slosh around in the bottle and are very liquidy instead of being extremely thick like the other Citadel paints. They also cover even better despite being very thin, it's kind of a miracle really. The increased price is worth it, and it's probably because they put a higher quality metallic flake in it to get this result. If you aren't using a high quality metallic product like Vallejo Metallic Color, Vallejo Model Air, Vallejo Liquid Gold, or Alclad II, these are the best options available. Stormhost Silver is nearly identical to Runefang Steel in color. It is very slightly brighter, but you will not notice it if you mix it into your army. It also is thinner and covers much better than Runefang. Liberator Gold is much paler and more realistic gold than Auric Armor. Auric Armor is trash IMO. It has terrible color and it gives a very cheesy, fake yellow color. It looks better after a brown wash, but Liberator Gold is just a much better color overall. They look nothing alike, so be aware of that. The white cap AoS Base called Retributor Armor is more similar to Auric Armor Gold but is a more robust and richer deep gold color instead of being yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxnoctis22 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Sounds like Retributor Armor is the better option than in terms of gold for me. Thanks for all the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 If I'm not mistaken, both the Liberator Gold and Stormhost Silver contain more "metallic" flecks that are smaller in size, so they are both more consistently and higher reflectivity. I personally really like using both of them as the bright/second highlights for my metallics, and super-bright gold spots can be made by mixing LG:SS 1:1. Retributor Gold also has this slightly different metallic composition as well from what I can tell. IMO they are all metallics that are worth it from GW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Stormhost is more like old Mithril, very pure silver. Sorry to hijack the thread, but I've been pondering about my replacement for Mithril Silver recently, as my stash is running out... You're sure they're really similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Stormhost is more like old Mithril, very pure silver. Sorry to hijack the thread, but I've been pondering about my replacement for Mithril Silver recently, as my stash is running out... You're sure they're really similar? As close as you get. Left one (right is Runefang) http://www.forgottenplanet.com/guildenstern/NewLayers6.jpg http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2016/7/16/814022_md-Metallics%20close%20up%202.jpeg There's also a Vallejo GAME AIR "Silver" that is very pure silver and comes off a brush like a dream, single coat full coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Ooh, that looks really good. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Woah. I need stormhost silver... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 This is the VGA Silver, 72.752. And here it is on a sketch of one of my Chosen. One layer, straight out of the bottle, small brush. Comes off it like a dream indeed. Full coverage, easy. http://i.imgur.com/G0utlQG.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The Vallejo Air metallics are all lovely, but some things to keep in mind: 1) The three lightest silvers (Aluminium, Chrome and Sliver) are all the same as far as I can tell. I bought and used all three, and I just cannot see any difference. 2) The brighter golds are rather wan-looking and have poor coverage. They need to be mixed with a tan/ochre (say about 1:1) for a first (and sometimes second) coat to help the next few gold-only coats look solid. They do produce a beautiful and realistic-looking gold if you are willing to spend the time on them though, and they are great for highlighting most other brands of gold paint too. 3) The VMA range also have metallic colours - blue, red, etc. The blue is fantastic, but the red isn't as metallic as I'd hoped. You can mix in some silver paint to make them more metallic, and then use some inks or Tamiya clear to deepen the colour intensity, so it's still worth trying them out and seeing how they work for you. 4) Because the VMA use aluminium powder rather than mica flakes in order to get the metallic sheen, they need to be applied to a smooth surface to get the best from them. If you apply these over a slightly rough primer coat for example, they don't come out as metallic-looking as they should. A good tip is therefore to apply a thin layer of gloss varnish over any rougher areas first, as this helps to smooth the surface and give the metal paint better reflectivity. Point (4) is from recent personal experience - I am painting 20 Khorne Blood Reavers right now, and the metals took a lot of coats because I applied them over the the grey-primered areas, and these were not smooth enough to get the finish I was expecting. So, please learn from my mistakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Vallejo metallic colours currently have a few ranges. Game colour Silvers are still not great, but their golds are much better than GW (IMHO). Model Air metals are very good, but has been outdone by Vallejo's Metal Line. Apparent MA metals have had some issues in the past... Metal Line is meant to be a better formulation. Aluminum and Chrome are whitish, with Chrome having a more matt finish when layered. Sliver is pretty neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Vallejo metallic colours currently have a few ranges. Game colour Silvers are still not great, but their golds are much better than GW (IMHO). Model Air metals are very good, but has been outdone by Vallejo's Metal Line. Apparent MA metals have had some issues in the past... Metal Line is meant to be a better formulation. Aluminum and Chrome are whitish, with Chrome having a more matt finish when layered. Sliver is pretty neutral. There are also Vallejo Game Air Metallics. And their silver are insanely good, just like I've shown above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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