Valerian Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Copied from BA page: Some rules are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomAnt Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I wish I knew the land raider rules. My triple grey knight land raider list might become viable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I wish I knew the land raider rules. My triple grey knight land raider list might become viable! Yea I can't wait to see what land raiders can do... sadly I sold my Godhammer and Crusader patterns because they were almost pointless to take... Oh well, it seems with 8th I'll be buying a bunch of new kits to put together =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Good thing FW is also making their models 8th ed. compatible as their custom GK landraider is now even more tempting...since with the new Twin-Linked being double the shots and their landraider packing TL Psycannons! Im also happy with my Xiphon Interceptor...capable of now pumping out 4 x D6 AP-3 lascannon shots a turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Could 8th actually do it? Could it actually be??? A GK army with options aside from Librarians, Terminators and Dreadknights?!?! *excited scream* =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Librarians, Terminators, NDK and Land Raiders!!! ;) (J/K I'm excited to get my Dreads back, plus once again use Pruifiers and maybe even Paladin!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I wish I knew the land raider rules. My triple grey knight land raider list might become viable!My Tri-Raider list is purring away, waiting for the moment PAGK and vehicles are viable again. SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Yeah if like to know if power armour will be worth it this edition. Terminators having 2 wounds is great, but if it turns out loads of spamable weapons have the d3/6 damage, then the extra wound will mean nothing really. And will work out more cost efficient with power armoured numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dremiah Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Can't wait for the Grey Knights faction focus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamtro Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Forgive me if the info is there, but i've looked about 4 pages back and didn't see anything. Do we have any idea how the new Primaris marines will integrate with GK's or will they need to be separate entities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Forgive me if the info is there, but i've looked about 4 pages back and didn't see anything. Do we have any idea how the new Primaris marines will integrate with GK's or will they need to be separate entities? Here's the link to the other thread in this forum with the discussion on the Primaris Marines and the Grey Knights: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333741-primaris-marines-and-the-grey-knights/ The gist of the discussion, however, is that they won't really integrate with our Chapter. You'll likely be able to buy them and put them in the same Detachment via the Adeptus Astartes keyword, but it won't have the advantages of going pure 'Grey Knights.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 The way objectives are captured has me worried. It's number of models within 3" It's not like we have a lot in our armies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 The way objectives are captured has me worried. It's number of models within 3" It's not like we have a lot in our armies! Ishagu, How many figs can you realistically fit within 3" of an objective? If you sit an NDK right on the objective, I really don't think the 10 Orks surrounding him are going to have much of a say in who owns that objective. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 We don't typically have a lot of models compared to many other armies, but if we can get to the objective, we'll generally not have too much of an issue taking control of it, given storm bolters at a minimum on every model (which we haven't even seen the updated profile for) combined with Nemesis for weapons all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I've got a suspicion that the Apothecary and the Standard Bearer models might be moved out from the Paladin Squad to be made Characters. The Apothecary would give a radius FNP-type buff, while the Standard Bearer would give a radius Morale buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I've got a suspicion that the Apothecary and the Standard Bearer models might be moved out from the Paladin Squad to be made Characters. The Apothecary would give a radius FNP-type buff, while the Standard Bearer would give a radius Morale buff. That would be an interesting dynamic in gameplay with the new IC rules. Although if that were the case it would seem like a Paladin Apothecary would be almost an Auto-include for a FnP radius bonus like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Although if that were the case it would seem like a Paladin Apothecary would be almost an Auto-include for a FnP radius bonus like that. Well, that's the thing. I think when we finally see all of the dataslates and special rules, we're going to think everything is auto-include, and we're going to have a dilemma on what we actually need, and what we can afford to include based on points cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Lot's of changes over in the GW web store over the night. Khaldor Draigo has been moved from LoW to HQ section. The Brotherhood Champion is completely gone (that old metal 3rd edition squad Justicar model) All of the generic stuff that isn't Grey Knights only is gone (i.e. the Librarian, Dreadnought, and the rest of the vehicles). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 <p> Lot's of changes over in the GW web store over the night. Khaldor Draigo has been moved from LoW to HQ section. The Brotherhood Champion is completely gone (that old metal 3rd edition squad Justicar model) All of the generic stuff that isn't Grey Knights only is gone (i.e. the Librarian, Dreadnought, and the rest of the vehicles). As epic as Draigo is, I've always felt he was more of an HQ than a LoW when compared with Wraithknights, Imperial Knights and the such... but that's just me I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 But Marneus Calgar is still in the LOW section (as is Ghazghull). Wonder if it's just not been updated or if they have left them there intentionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 But Marneus Calgar is still in the LOW section (as is Ghazghull). Wonder if it's just not been updated or if they have left them there intentionally. I think it is an oversight for Calgar. Every single other Chapter Master has been moved (Azrael, Seth, Dante, Grimnar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/26/new-warhammer-40000-primaris-space-marinesgw-homepage-post-4/ Maybe this is just speculation based on hope for us, but I noticed the Captain in Gravís Armour has a wrist mounted weapon which is considered a pistol... what are the chacnes Grey Knights get to shoot in CC with their wrist mounted weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holier Than Thou Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Let's hope so. And if that gets 3 shots, hopefully the comment about Stormbolters having "Oh, so many shots" might be accurate. Also, looks like Master Crafted either increases damage by 1 or doubles damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Yeah, several items of potential there for us. 3 shot Storm Bolters would be great. I don't think they'll be treated as Pistols, however, but I'd take the extra range of the Pistol ability any day. If we make it to a combat with our Nemesis weapons, not too many enemy units will live long enough for us to need to worry about Shooting them in our next turn. Rites of Battle is a terrific type of ability for our Brother-Captains. Hopefully a few units still get access to Master-crafted, to get the extra Damage, on top of what we know Force is already going to give us. One of the biggest is seeing the WS 2+ and BS 2+ on that Captain. It means at least some of our Characters will be hitting better than our standard Troopers. Not sure where the cutoff line will be, so it'll be interesting to see where Paladins fall out. Looking good so far with what we can extrapolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 We should be anticipating Paladins having the same stat line as Primaris, but with TDA saves and keywords. My guess. SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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