Dark Serpentine Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Hey guys, Struggling to finish off a list i'm working on at the moment for a Campaign tournament coming up in a little while. Making Alpharius work at a semi-competitive level seems pretty tough, so thoughts/opinions on the list very much welcome! HQ Forge Lord - Artificer armour, PF, Power Dagger, Rad G, Refractor, Cyber-fam TROOPS 3 x 10 Tac Marines - Vexilla, Serg w. AA & Melta B (Rhino w. dozer) 1 x 7 Tac Support Marines - Melta guns. Serg w. AA, PF+Augury scanner, Melta B, Power Dagger, Combi Melta (Rhino w. Dozer B, pintle MM) ELITES 1 x Quad Mortar Battery (x3 Quads) - Shatter Shells 1 x Apothecary - AA 6 x Invictarus Suzerains - (Phobos w. Dozer + AC) 1 x Rapier Battery (x2 Carriers) Laser Destroyer HEAVY SUPPORT 1 x Levi - Cyclonic ML, Drill, AC (DDP) 1 x Proteus - Dozer, AC, Explorator Web 1 x Scorpius LOW 1 x Alpharius ;) List comes in at 3075 Main idea was to keep everything with DT incase i need to take a Mutable Tactic other than Infiltrate. Main plan for Big A is to stick him in the Phobos with the Apoth and Forge Lord, unveiled for a Scout move etc. Depending on the opponents list i can play the One of Many and hide him in an infiltrating DT, which could end up being the Phobos for a double bluff/to get him up the board quicker. (Proteus stuck in for modifier on enemy reserves with CoTH) My main thoughts: -Are the Laser Destroyer batteries any good? At a pinch with Tank Hunter MT they could work pretty well, I've had a lot of joy out of the Quads for survivability, but lack the punch against Flare Shields etc. -What can i trim down on to get the list in at 3000pts -The TSS i'm not sure on, but they benefit from both Tank Hunter and Infiltrate, they are another scoring unit, and i've maxed out my Elites (would rather go Vets for flexibility) Any help would be much appreciated guys! Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Tac Support don't have a Dedicated Transport, so you're stuck with Infiltrate. I have a list that's very similar, but I field Seekers instead of a melta Support Squad (they can take a Proteus as a DT). Vets would be better, but no Proteus then, so you have to take Infiltrate. I have this issue often. :) To save points, drop a Suzerain at least. Maybe gear down the Support Sergeant too. Haven't used laser Rapiers, but I have 2 laser Vindicators on the way, as they are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Serpentine Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 Thanks for the input Caillum, forgot to write down that the TSS has a rhino with dozer and pintle multi melta. Have updated the list, same points. Good point though about the seekers, although I find them a little expensive, but at least I'm slimming down on a rhino and making better use of the Proteus. I'm also keen to try laser Vindi, instead of the scorpius. Will play around some more and see what I can change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Strongly support the notion of running Seekers (or in my case Destroyers) in a dedicated Proteus. Otherwise the list looks fine, though I'd probably try to squeeze in a pod for the Leviathan, but that's just personal taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Serpentine Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 Cheers Unknown, Yea Levi has to have drop pod. Will try and squeeze Seekers in. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Serpentine Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 Had a little play around with things and think I'm settled on a list, what are peoples thoughts? HQForge Lord - Artificer armour, PF, Power Dagger, Rad G, Refractor, Cyber-famTROOPS3 x 10 Tac Marines - Vexilla, Serg w. AA & Melta B (Rhino w. dozer, pintle MM)(2 Rhinos have Hunter Killer Missle)ELITES1 x Quad Mortar Battery (x3 Quads) - Shatter Shells1 x Apothecary - AA6 x Invictarus Suzerains - (Phobos w. Dozer + AC, pintle MM)1 x Rapier Battery (x2 Carriers) Laser Destroyer FAST ATTACK 8 x Seekers - Serg w. AA, PFist, PDagger, Melta B (1 x Proteus - Dozer, AC, Explorator Web, Hull mounted twin las)HEAVY SUPPORT1 x Levi - Cyclonic ML, Drill, AC (Drop Pod)LOW1 x Alpharius 3000 points. 5 scoring units, lots of infiltrating tanks with MM, kept the Seekers with stock weapons to save points (they can infiltrate into cover some games, using their Scorpius rounds straight up first turn, leave the Proteus behind to shoot from back line) The list wont benefit much from taking Tank Hunter as a MT i guess, quads already have Sunder and Rapiers have Ordnance, other than the sprinkle of MB on Serg's not much gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I actually really like how this list looks. Will be fun to play I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Serpentine Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 Thanks Unknown, looking forward to using the Suzerains! Just need to model some up now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Nice list! I'm looking forward to playing against it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 You are going to be converting some real Alphas with scaled shields and axes instead of those Suzerain models, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Serpentine Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 You are going to be converting some real Alphas with scaled shields and axes instead of those Suzerain models, right? Mostly, with a twist...what do you think of this... -Head hunter pouldrons and possible torso (or the legion upgrade torso as I prefer these) -Palatine blade legs, obviously with 3rd legion insignia removed/replaced with xxth -Omega resin cast sheilds from online store -AL upgrade helmets with crest (Mohawk style) -Shortened spears instead of axes. After reading Praetorian of Dorn, the Suzerains spears each have a small splinter of Alpharius' own spear, hence the AP2/same strength. Shortened to make them quick one handed weapons, hence th I4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Those seem perfect! Can't wait for pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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