GreaterChickenofTzeentch Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Yeah, pretty obvious oversight. Interesting that it's models that can take special weapons, not just the marauders. How useful is this? Not very, other than giving flamers to the guys with 3 wounds and BS5+. The unit would be a lot more interesting if they could still take power weapons. I thought about this too until I read it again and it says you have to swap a weapon. Since brutes dont have a valid weapon to swap they cant get one. Yeah....and for some reason Brutes are 30 points for a Str 4 guy with 3 wounds, and a basic CC attack, plus nothing else. They were expensive last edition because they had Rending. Now they....don't. I think someone got lazy and copy/pasted "30 points" everywhere they saw "Brute" since Ogryn Brutes are 30. Another one for the list. Edited June 26, 2017 by GreaterChickenofTzeentch spafe 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elazar The Glorified Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I wonder if the demo charges are intended for Marauders with the Heretek discipline rather than them gaining an irrelevant second batch of Krak Grenades... spafe 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Weapon Skill and Ballistic Skill on Renegade Militia & Renegade Heavy Weapons Squad - both should be 4+/4+. If enough people lump it in with the things that are obviously wrong in their emails and such, like the keyword issues, maybe they'll realize they done goofed. spafe 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaterChickenofTzeentch Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I wonder if the demo charges are intended for Marauders with the Heretek discipline rather than them gaining an irrelevant second batch of Krak Grenades... Yes. Suggest this on the email. Last edition they didn't get Krak by default. Now they do and charges would make sense as an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart1223 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Great feedback. Keep it coming. I'll have the draft posted before Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Cato Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 The list of things we can take includes Earthshaker and medusa batteries. The "earthshaker batter" is a thing. No crew. But there is no medusa battery. The "medusa carriage battery" has crew. So is there an entry missing for a medusa with no crew, or are we supposed to get the crewed option for both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 My list so far w page references, all stuff mentioned here already. Apparently james taylor is taking lists of issues on facebook to hand to the fw people? Cannot verify, as i dont really book faces. https://minisception.tumblr.com/post/162282702335/gamesception-petepaintswarhammer-not-sure-how Plaguecaster 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Let's hope for a quick FAQ then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresyBeliever Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 So have all the tanks taken a BS hit as well for the same points? I'm looking at my Baneblade and my medusa's thinking are they worth it anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 No, all the units borrowed from AM have their stat lines unchanged. Yet another reason why the 5+ BS on renegade militia and heavy weapon teams seems very out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 If I am playing Death Guard, how would I go about using a shadowsword or some similar baneblade variant with R&H? I figured I could just create the army under the Chaos keyword, then add a supreme command detachment with my 2 flying DP's and also slide a R&H superheavy in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karinon Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 They only get Baneblades, so no Shadowsword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrim Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Yeah Marauder Brutes are still busted - if you have to pay the cost of an Ogryn they should have an Orgyn stat line. Also no mention of what weapons they carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 If I am playing Death Guard, how would I go about using a shadowsword or some similar baneblade variant with R&H? I figured I could just create the army under the Chaos keyword, then add a supreme command detachment with my 2 flying DP's and also slide a R&H superheavy in there?Not renegades but take a hell forged Falchion as its main gun is pretty similar to a storm sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Didn't see this so sorry if I missed it, but has anyone noticed heavy weapon teams are only 3 points per model? Maybe subpar militia are incorrectly costed at 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Sure the teams themselves are 3pts/m, but then you need to pay for the weapon so they really aren't all that great considering they hit on +5s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinstryfe Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Sure the teams themselves are 3pts/m, but then you need to pay for the weapon so they really aren't all that great considering they hit on +5s. Right, I'm not disputing that they're bad :) I'm just wondering if maybe all militia are supposed to be 3 pts, and thus a point lower than guardsmen to make up for some of their suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) You'll only give your self a headache thinking that way , FW really dropped the ball and did a shoddy job of renegades so it's pretty hard to tell if most of the stuff is a mistake or intentional hopefully they sort it out with a FAQ but knowing FW track record with renegades from the last edition it'll just mean I'll just renegades for good and just focus on deathguard Edited July 2, 2017 by Plaguecaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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