Carrion Throne review and opinions

[Taliesin]

What's the follow up Novel going to be called?

 

Also what is known about the upcoming Custodian novel as I've not seen anything.

 

 

 

It's called Emperor's Legion, comes out in September.

 

Amazon.com has the synopsis.

[HeritorA]

 

What's the follow up Novel going to be called?

 

Also what is known about the upcoming Custodian novel as I've not seen anything.

 

 

 

It's called Emperor's Legion, comes out in September.

 

Amazon.com has the synopsis.

 

In full. Probably will have the main Custodes character from the 'Carrion Throne' as a protagonist

[Mellow]

Excellent. I shall be performing the ritual purchase when that comes out.

[HeritorA]

Excellent. I shall be performing the ritual purchase when that comes out.

With the dance and sacrifices?

[Knockagh]

Still haven't received mine. Flipped joke.

[Mellow]

 

 

Excellent. I shall be performing the ritual purchase when that comes out.

With the dance and sacrifices?

Of course. Anyone in the Mechanicum knows that you can't just "purchase an iBook" you must dance, wave your arms around and say a prayer to the Machine God!

[Pariah32]

So finished this last night and I must say easily my favourite 40k book this year!!

 

If I had to choose my favourite character for this novel I would most certainly state Terra itself. Chris really gets his paintbrush out and creates an incredibly indepth and immersive environment. Its truly breath taking and spectacular to imagine. Chris's version of Terra is so spot on for me; its massive, oppressive, majestic and quite terrifying to behold.

 

His version of a 40k custodian was perfect for a first time event. Liked the whole 'oh s$%t' line really brought it home. Though I would liked to of seen more of him and sure there is plenty more to be told based on Amazon leaks.

 

The plot line was interesting, driving us along through the crusts of the earth to the golden rooftops of the Imperial palace. The villain was a nice surprise and the over arching plot is clearly only just getting started

 

I think this could be the start of something special from Chris and BL.

Edited May 9, 2017 by Pariah32

[Taliesin]

One spoilerific question that I would love to get answered from you guys:

 

Do we get to see the Emperor? Supposedly part of the plot revolves around what state he is in and what should be done.

Edited May 9, 2017 by Taliesin

[Sandlemad]

One spoilerific question that I would love to get answered from you guys:

 

Do we get to see the Emperor? Supposedly part of the plot revolves around what state he is in and what should be done.

 

In a half-blind glimpse by one of the main characters, from the very base of the colossal pyramid of machinery which the throne sits atop of. He doesn't even realise what it is at first or that he's in the throneroom, he's in such hot pursuit of a significant antagonist. Just gets a faint shimmering haze of gold far far above, the constant deep hum of machinery, immense heat, a aura of fear and awe and oppression. Then he faints.

[Mellow]

At least it proves The Emperor is still alive right? The whole feeling his presence and his immense power really drives home how mortals feel close to the Golden Throne. Where as the Custodians love it and it gives them warm feelings of daddy in their bellies.

[R_F_D]

My LE has just arrived.  I do not think BL had produced a more beautiful LE!

[HeritorA]

So finished this last night and I must say easily my favourite 40k book this year!!

 

If I had to choose my favourite character for this novel I would most certainly state Terra itself. Chris really gets his paintbrush out and creates an incredibly indepth and immersive environment. Its truly breath taking and spectacular to imagine. Chris's version of Terra is so spot on for me; its massive, oppressive, majestic and quite terrifying to behold.

 

His version of a 40k custodian was perfect for a first time event. Liked the whole 'oh s$%t' line really brought it home. Though I would liked to of seen more of him and sure there is plenty more to be told based on Amazon leaks.

 

The plot line was interesting, driving us along through the crusts of the earth to the golden rooftops of the Imperial palace. The villain was a nice surprise and the over arching plot is clearly only just getting started

 

I think this could be the start of something special from Chris and BL.

Definitely it could be a new 'Eisenhorn' for the new generation.

 

At least it proves The Emperor is still alive right? The whole feeling his presence and his immense power really drives home how mortals feel close to the Golden Throne. Where as the Custodians love it and it gives them warm feelings of daddy in their bellies.

That's a build up for upcoming Gathering Storm events

[Taliesin]

Hmm so not nearly as much detail on that as I had hoped for in this book, based on Laurie's comments about there being books from Wraight and French in 2017 that would deal with the Emperor's situation.

 

Maybe we will get significantly more in Emperor's Legion in September.

[Angel_of_Blood]

Just got my LE copy. Book looks beautiful, especially like how it's a little on the subtle(?) side you might say, but still looks great. Also feels great, real nice quality.

 

On another note though. My edition number is rather nice...

 

[HeritorA]

Just got my LE copy. Book looks beautiful, especially like how it's a little on the subtle(?) side you might say, but still looks great. Also feels great, real nice quality.

 

On another note though. My edition number is rather nice...

 

Awesome number - glad for you battle brother.

[Mellow]

Hmm so not nearly as much detail on that as I had hoped for in this book, based on Laurie's comments about there being books from Wraight and French in 2017 that would deal with the Emperor's situation.

 

Maybe we will get significantly more in Emperor's Legion in September.

Yeah. I agree. Laurie's comments made it out like there was loads of big reveals about The Emperor but clearly it was just a marketing ploy to get books sold.

[Servant of Dante]

For referance, that intro is taken from the intro to the Inquisitor rulebook (the oop GW specialist game)

 

And dang, #1?

[Petitioner's City]

For referance, that intro is taken from the intro to the Inquisitor rulebook (the oop GW specialist game)

 

And dang, #1?

This book felt very inspired by Inquisitor (& its art) for sure....

 

So many lovely notes - the paradisal mention of Krieg as a garden planet, for example, or the short lifespans of terrans with 20-somethings middle aged, or mentions of locations from Abnett's work, or the use of hellgun throughout.

 

It is a different vision of the Inquisition on Terra from TBA, and a much better one.

 

And it is a different vision from really the modern foundations of Inquisition literature in Dan Abnett - although close in tone to his Pariah, with its own stunning painterly descriptions and images. But these inquisitors and retinues were colder, harsher, far less cultured or kind than Gregor Eisenhorn and his lyrical, munificent and generous approach to valuing human life. This lens with which we see the inquisition is muddier, even mired in filth.

 

I miss Gregor, Beta and Gideon and I hope we see them again soon. But I'm looking forward to more of these characters, even if they are not them.

[HeritorA]

 

Hmm so not nearly as much detail on that as I had hoped for in this book, based on Laurie's comments about there being books from Wraight and French in 2017 that would deal with the Emperor's situation.

 

Maybe we will get significantly more in Emperor's Legion in September.

Yeah. I agree. Laurie's comments made it out like there was loads of big reveals about The Emperor but clearly it was just a marketing ploy to get books sold.

 

As usual Half of the BL synopsis are misleading like Kairos jokes.

 

 

For referance, that intro is taken from the intro to the Inquisitor rulebook (the oop GW specialist game)

 

And dang, #1?

This book felt very inspired by Inquisitor (& its art) for sure....

 

So many lovely notes - the paradisal mention of Krieg as a garden planet, for example, or the short lifespans of terrans with 20-somethings middle aged, or mentions of locations from Abnett's work, or the use of hellgun throughout.

 

It is a different vision of the Inquisition on Terra from TBA, and a much better one.

 

And it is a different vision from really the modern foundations of Inquisition literature in Dan Abnett - although close in tone to his Pariah, with its own stunning painterly descriptions and images. But these inquisitors and retinues were colder, harsher, far less cultured or kind than Gregor Eisenhorn and his lyrical, munificent and generous approach to valuing human life. This lens with which we see the inquisition is muddier, even mired in filth.

 

I miss Gregor, Beta and Gideon and I hope we see them again soon. But I'm looking forward to more of these characters, even if they are not them.

 

Exactly - that's the Inquisition for the New generation brother. We are old dinosaurs

[Sandlemad]

And it is a different vision from really the modern foundations of Inquisition literature in Dan Abnett - although close in tone to his Pariah, with its own stunning painterly descriptions and images. But these inquisitors and retinues were colder, harsher, far less cultured or kind than Gregor Eisenhorn and his lyrical, munificent and generous approach to valuing human life. This lens with which we see the inquisition is muddier, even mired in filth.

 

I miss Gregor, Beta and Gideon and I hope we see them again soon. But I'm looking forward to more of these characters, even if they are not them.

 

 

It felt more obviously 40k, in a sense, less slightly genteel Abnett-verse high society stuff. Servo-skulls and (well-written) fanatics and torture and ruins. The inquisition is more defined and locked-down as a concept than it was when Eisenhorn was written, even allowing for what ADB has written elsewhere (The Emperor's Gift and the B&C) about it being a nebulous and decentralised organisation. It's no surprise that this book would hew closer to that core concept and be less vague on stuff like the remit of different ordos and such than Abnett's work.

 

To take an in-universe approach, we are looking at inquisitors at the very end of the 41st millennium, some 600-ish years after Eisenhorn's active career. Since the events of Ravenor you have the three wars for Armageddeon, the three Tyrannic wars, the wars with the Tau, the Badab war, the flickering of the astronomicon and the awakening of psykers, the rise of the Necrons, loss of contact with the Segmentum Pacificus... Just looking that up reminded my how there's many more dates in the latter centuries of M41 but also how everything is absolutely going to hell; the imperium really is stressed and overexerted more than ever before. And now

xenos in the imperial palace

.

It make some sense for an inquisitor living and working at that time to be muddier and more desperate than their counterpart from the start of the millennium. More willing to throw out the niceties, more willing to sacrifice.

 

That said, I wonder how much of Eisenhorn's seeming munificence comes from Abnett's use of the first person. It's very easy to be led along by him but even early on he did push a fellow inquisitor into molten metal (I think?) and only linger over it for a line or two. All the stuff with Aemos and Fischig he found a way to justify to himself but... he did it.

[Mellow]

When you put it like that things aren't going very well for the Imperium at all with those events happening.

 

It's almost hilarious that even with all that going on life inside the Palace goes on in it's own little bubble. With the Custodians still walking around like daddy's ok.

 

It's all a bit weird.

 

Thank goodness Guilliman is back so he can do Great Crusade 2.0 and get the book keeping back in good order.

[ronin_cse]

Well this sounds too good to pass up. Now to decide if I wanna go eBook or audio book :/

[HeritorA]

When you put it like that things aren't going very well for the Imperium at all with those events happening.

 

It's almost hilarious that even with all that going on life inside the Palace goes on in it's own little bubble. With the Custodians still walking around like daddy's ok.

 

It's all a bit weird.

 

Thank goodness Guilliman is back so he can do Great Crusade 2.0 and get the book keeping back in good order.

It was always this. Imperial palace was always that kind of self-bubble inside the universe of self-bubbling Imperium of Mankind.

All that deathshroud emanation of the Corpse on a Golden Throne leads to the aura of sacrifice. hopelessness and disaster mixed in a blender with a little slice of hope

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Just got done with it today and I loved it. 

[HeritorA]

Just got done with it today and I loved it. 

Sincere congratulations are in order!