9x19 Parabellum Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Back to 7th edition for a moment, my brothers. A Command Squad is listed as having 3 veterans, 1 champion and 1 sanguinary initiate. It later says that any veteran can choose a weapon from the melee, ranged or special weapons lists. So: do the champion and/or initiate count as being veterans for the purpose of determining who can select a melee, ranged or special weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 They do not. They have different names and statlines. So you can have a max of three special weapons in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 · Hidden by Jolemai, May 15, 2017 - Unnecessary Hidden by Jolemai, May 15, 2017 - Unnecessary Veterans are Veterans. The Champion is a Champion. The Initiate is a Initiate. I thought the wording was pretty clear. :D Link to comment
9x19 Parabellum Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Thanks Captain. That sucks...because a regular SM Command Squad doesn't have to have the Champ and Sang Init. Which means they can just plop down a concentrated unit of 5 guns for maximum focused fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paikis Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 A Command Squad with 3 Plasmaguns and Stormshields make for a very good (and expensive) escort for Mephiston. Put em all in a pod and drop em near some supporting troops then go kill things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Indeed, indeed. But the situation may change in 8th! It's likely all Codex Space Marines will all share the same Command Squad unit. As to what that will look like, we can only offer wildly incoherent speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Indeed, indeed. But the situation may change in 8th! It's likely all Codex Space Marines will all share the same Command Squad unit. As to what that will look like, we can only offer wildly incoherent speculation Truedat. Although my primary gaming buddy and I do NOT like the looks of where 8th edition is heading, so we may very well freeze frame and just continue along in curmudgeony perpetuity with 7th edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 ^ in that case shooting the plasma guns will stop the unit from charging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 ^ in that case shooting the plasma guns will stop the unit from charging. So will arriving by drop pod! But that's why their hands are magnetized, so I can pop in the meltas if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I have played against people who put plasma or grav in a Command Squad with beatstick characters attached and watched them all struggle with the decision to shoot or charge. Magnets or no, you still have to make a choice for the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm going to be magnetising between melta guns or lightning claws. Storm shield in the other hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm going to be magnetising between melta guns or lightning claws. Storm shield in the other hand. I put a complete stop on all things grey when 8th was released, fundamental changes need be taken in before decisions are made on equipment. Unless you're just saying 'nope' and staying firmly planted in 7th. I'm curious to see what support there will be on forums as 8th is released and develops for the current edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Whatever happens, there will still only be one premier place to discuss Blood Angels and that's here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted May 19, 2017 Author Share Posted May 19, 2017 Ok follow up question to this. Am I correct that i can give 3 of the 5 dudes in a Command Squad: - a storm shield - a plasma, grav or melta gun - a lightning claw? ...and that they benefit from all 3? I realize this would be a crazy stupid point sink, but I'm tempted to do it for the lulz :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Ok follow up question to this. Am I correct that i can give 3 of the 5 dudes in a Command Squad: - a storm shield - a plasma, grav or melta gun - a lightning claw? ...and that they benefit from all 3? I realize this would be a crazy stupid point sink, but I'm tempted to do it for the lulz :-) you are correct. they can have all three, though kit bashing them is going to be a bit of a pain. I would suggest combat shields from the ASM box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbOfAntioch Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 As far as 7th is concerned I think the BA CS has a pretty good/durable loadout for 100 pts.. stick some special weapons / SSs in a drop pod and they can be pretty annoying.. I wouldn't object to the champ losing the combat shield though (I just think they're ugly).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Combi-weapons + chainswords are now the best option in my mind. Option for double the amount of shots and 3 attacks per model, bar the champion. It seems like it is going to be really strong for a 5 man squad that gives benefits to your HQs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Assuming loadout options are still the same, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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