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The Primaris Space Marines and the Space Wolves


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Repulsaor can carry 10, so a "mixed" of Hellblasters and Intercessors can objective sit pretty damn hard, while engaging multiple units at 30" with decent heavy support from the tank. Granted a metric ton of points, but Primaris ain't cheap.

The intercessors, yeah they have extra toughness and a extra wound, but just fall flat with no special weapons and no transports. They are immobile and while they would be great if they could get in land raiders/stormwolfs to hold objectives, being unable to restricts them greatly.

Reivers offer a support role with being able to get into position quickly and holding their own in a fight. They also have a range weapon making them more versatile than the intercessors.


Pretty sure you meant that Reivers have a melee weapon that makes them more versatile.
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Repulsaor can carry 10, so a "mixed" of Hellblasters and Intercessors can objective sit pretty damn hard, while engaging multiple units at 30" with decent heavy support from the tank. Granted a metric ton of points, but Primaris ain't cheap.

The intercessors, yeah they have extra toughness and a extra wound, but just fall flat with no special weapons and no transports. They are immobile and while they would be great if they could get in land raiders/stormwolfs to hold objectives, being unable to restricts them greatly.

Reivers offer a support role with being able to get into position quickly and holding their own in a fight. They also have a range weapon making them more versatile than the intercessors.


Pretty sure you meant that Reivers have a melee weapon that makes them more versatile.

 

 

reivers default is melee weapons, they have a optional range weapon too.


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Intercessors don't get higher Toughness, it's Attacks and Wounds. Only Primaris in the Gravis version of Mk X Armour get the extra Toughness, and Intercessors aren't in Gravis.

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Repulsaor can carry 10, so a "mixed" of Hellblasters and Intercessors can objective sit pretty damn hard, while engaging multiple units at 30" with decent heavy support from the tank. Granted a metric ton of points, but Primaris ain't cheap.

The intercessors, yeah they have extra toughness and a extra wound, but just fall flat with no special weapons and no transports. They are immobile and while they would be great if they could get in land raiders/stormwolfs to hold objectives, being unable to restricts them greatly.

Reivers offer a support role with being able to get into position quickly and holding their own in a fight. They also have a range weapon making them more versatile than the intercessors.

Pretty sure you meant that Reivers have a melee weapon that makes them more versatile.

reivers default is melee weapons, they have a optional range weapon too.

But that is just a carbine isn't it? 24" range assault 2? I would think keeping the melee weapon and pistol would be more versatile than pushing the carbine onto them.
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Repulsaor can carry 10, so a "mixed" of Hellblasters and Intercessors can objective sit pretty damn hard, while engaging multiple units at 30" with decent heavy support from the tank. Granted a metric ton of points, but Primaris ain't cheap.

The intercessors, yeah they have extra toughness and a extra wound, but just fall flat with no special weapons and no transports. They are immobile and while they would be great if they could get in land raiders/stormwolfs to hold objectives, being unable to restricts them greatly.

Reivers offer a support role with being able to get into position quickly and holding their own in a fight. They also have a range weapon making them more versatile than the intercessors.

Pretty sure you meant that Reivers have a melee weapon that makes them more versatile.

reivers default is melee weapons, they have a optional range weapon too.

But that is just a carbine isn't it? 24" range assault 2? I would think keeping the melee weapon and pistol would be more versatile than pushing the carbine onto them.

 

Im thinking 4 carbines might be a sweet spot, just enough ranged fire power to irritate targets a bit away


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My Space Wolves have received their first squad of Primaris reinforcements. I am planning to walk them up the battlefield with Bjorn so that they can overcharge all day and reroll 1s. Given the mono-pose nature of the models I have built them vanilla rather then wolfifying them (I see them as new arrivals to the Fang). If I get more Primaris stuff in future, I may decorate them with some more appropriate pelts and tails.
 
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Repulsaor can carry 10, so a "mixed" of Hellblasters and Intercessors can objective sit pretty damn hard, while engaging multiple units at 30" with decent heavy support from the tank. Granted a metric ton of points, but Primaris ain't cheap.

The intercessors, yeah they have extra toughness and a extra wound, but just fall flat with no special weapons and no transports. They are immobile and while they would be great if they could get in land raiders/stormwolfs to hold objectives, being unable to restricts them greatly.

Reivers offer a support role with being able to get into position quickly and holding their own in a fight. They also have a range weapon making them more versatile than the intercessors.

Pretty sure you meant that Reivers have a melee weapon that makes them more versatile.
reivers default is melee weapons, they have a optional range weapon too.
But that is just a carbine isn't it? 24" range assault 2? I would think keeping the melee weapon and pistol would be more versatile than pushing the carbine onto them.
Im thinking 4 carbines might be a sweet spot, just enough ranged fire power to irritate targets a bit away

Yea, I don't want my Reivers at range taking pot shots. I need them up close and personal, tossing their special grenades in the units my Wulfen and/or TWC will be charging to kill Overwatch. Then they can join in the pokey stabby fun or through a wrench into Counterattack plans.
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I'm not sure, how much of the new Codex Vanialla Marines is published / leaked by now. Buuut … if I am not mistaken, it doesn't contain primarised named Characters, right? At leas they have not been mentioned in the Warhammer Community Articles. I would speculate from this, that we will not see a primarised Ragnar anytime soon …

 

Plus: The current Primaris Line looks now pretty much complete (maybe just bikes missing). I don't think, we will see many Primaris Units until most of the Codices are published.

 

P.S.: And now, that I wrote it down, it got me thinking … if Games Workshop really doesn't primarise the Character Modells, then it get's more unlikely that they are about to phase out the old-scale-non-primaris Marines …

 

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P.S.: And now, that I wrote it down, it got me thinking … if Games Workshop really doesn't primarise the Character Modells, then it get's more unlikely that they are about to phase out the old-scale-non-primaris Marines …


I don't think non-Primaris Marines will be going away for a long time. If you look at the new units, they have made a big effort not to create Primaris equivalents of existing units. The Jump Packers are mobile fire-support rather than assault. The Aggressors are short-ranged and also pack a punch in combat. The Assault troops specialise in infiltration and terror rather than simply twirling lots of power weapons about. Intercessors lacks the weapons flexibility of tactical squads. The only vehicle is an expensive floating IFV with no cheap transports or MBTs.

As it stands, a pure Primaris army is possible but would be difficult. It lacks dedicated long-range heavy weapons like Devastators. It has little in the way of Lascannons or meltas to threaten heavy vehicles and monsters and has no fast CC troops. Maybe this will change in the future but for now, GW seem to have made a big effort to avoid obsoleting any existing Marine units.
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Sanguinius stood up, stretching his wings to their full extent. He flexed his hands. "I need no blade".
It was as though Sanguinius gleamed with pale light, his face white, eyes becoming blood-red, surrounded by the golden crown of flowing hair. Guilliman had witnessed glimpses of of his brother's wrath before, but had never seen the true Blood Angel unleashed. Sanguinius surged forward on alabaster wings, half a meter from the floor, whiteness streaming from him like flames.


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So aggressors. Been thinking a lot about them since yesterday. I want a unit or 2 to accomoany bjorn as they are quite decently priced. But i wonder how they fit in my great company.

Wishlisting a bit, i hope we have ways to give certain primaris certain keywords. Aggressors being wolf guard, hellblasters long fangs, intercessors grey hunters..

Aggressors have build in powerfists so i think they are decently wolfy enough. The hellblasters would (wishlisting here) get theblong fang special rule too ;) and intercessors access to chainswords.

But in a more practical note, with what we have. I will do thebfollowing:

Aggressors are a new unit in my great company woth its own designation. Wolf guard in status really.. But seperated from their wolf guard brothers like thunderwolf cavalry.

Intercessors are grey hunters with scout mentality. I will run them only with stalker boltrifles to make that work. The other variants could really use a ccw.

Reivers will be wolf scouts with a new twist. No real explanation needed.

Hellblasters. These are tougher. Long fangs are the space wolf heavy support units but they arent really long fangs. Any ideas?

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Hellblasters are the only unit that's really tempted me so far, I seem to be heading in a very plasma heavy direction so if I get some they will be used as front line fire support, letting the plasma-fangs sit back at range and not draw so much fire. If the hellblasters draw fire, eh they have two wounds and at least that means my Claws will get shot at less....



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I like the look of the Aggressors but want the flame gauntlets to be helfrost gauntlets instead for the SW.  Will see what / if they customize them for any of the SW, more than likely the first unit I'll pick up of the primaris



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I like the look of the Aggressors but want the flame gauntlets to be helfrost gauntlets instead for the SW.  Will see what / if they customize them for any of the SW, more than likely the first unit I'll pick up of the primaris

helfrost gauntlets would be the only thing that makes me get them but thats wishlisting, and a friggin ton of mortal wounds


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Quick question.

Just ordered some bits. Primaris Captain with gravis armour. Do you know if they can take the flamer instead of the gun? I wanna use the Aggressor bits to build mine instead of the snap fit one.

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Quick question.

Just ordered some bits. Primaris Captain with gravis armour. Do you know if they can take the flamer instead of the gun? I wanna use the Aggressor bits to build mine instead of the snap fit one.

 

Don't think so, as I understand, most of the Primaris are very limited in their selection, including the Captain in Gravis Armour.


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