What Chapters would you like to see the return of?

[Emperor's Furor]

With the introduction of Primaris Marines, there's a little bit about the introduction of new chapters or reinforcing existing chapters, so it got me thinking which chapters would benefit the most out of these new marines and which chapters could be reintroduced? The two that sprung to my mind were the Celestial Lions and the Astral Knights. The Celestial Lions were next to destroyed on Armageddon due to some inquisitorial treachery and the last we heard from them the remaining Lions returned home with a detachment of Black Templars to rebuild, I figure they'd be a prime candidate to receive some of these new guys.

 

As for the Astral Knights, they were pretty much destroyed whilst taking down the World Engine, the Sable Swords were created to replace them but since the home of Astral Knights is in the ultima segementum, I figure Roboute could honour their memory by reincarnating them with the Primaris Marines.

 

What do you think and what other chapters could be brought back from the brink of destruction or death?

[KiltedMarine]

Astral Knights and Celestial Lions are high on the list.

 

Rainbow Warriors

Lamenters

Crimson Fists

Scythes of the Emperor

 

I'd also like to see Primaris-based successor Chapters of non-Guilliman bloodlines- there's room in the crummy fluff for some kinda cool possibilities.  All-Primaris successors of the Salamanders or the White Scars or... really any of the Legions... would be a way of potentially making a silk purse out of the Wardian sow's ear that GW did with the introduction itself.  IMO, anyway.

[Mechanicus Tech-Support]

With the introduction of Primaris Marines, there's a little bit about the introduction of new chapters or reinforcing existing chapters, so it got me thinking which chapters would benefit the most out of these new marines and which chapters could be reintroduced? The two that sprung to my mind were the Celestial Lions and the Astral Knights. The Celestial Lions were next to destroyed on Armageddon due to some inquisitorial treachery Ork Snipers and the last we heard from them the remaining Lions returned home with a detachment of Black Templars to rebuild, I figure they'd be a prime candidate to receive some of these new guys.

As for the Astral Knights, they were pretty much destroyed whilst taking down the World Engine, the Sable Swords were created to replace them but since the home of Astral Knights is in the ultima segementum, I figure Roboute could honour their memory by reincarnating them with the Primaris Marines.

What do you think and what other chapters could be brought back from the brink of destruction or death?

Fixed that for you

Pretty much reiterating what Kilted typed, just a change in the order due to personal preference (i'd knock out Rainbow warriors and CF would be below Scythes)

There's probably some other Chapters that I can't remember currently. But I'd love to see the Astral Knights return and some thing good to happen to the Lamenters for once, guys could use a break

[Filius]

Rainbow Warriors!

 

I just bought the book and the first pages are pretty cool. And I always loved the native american indian background of the Deathwing, they retconned somewhen. I would really love to see a Chapter with that theme.

 

I'd also would love to see a Primaris Space Wolves Successor … ha-haa … just kidding.

 

As much as I crave for a salvation for the Lamenters, the Crimson Fists and the Scythes of the Emperor … they – of all who fear they are losing their Identiy with the Primaris Marines – wouldn't be the same, if the were rescued …

 

But … a fun thing would be this: The Lamenters do get Primaris. They are still haunted by extreme bad luck, but … the don't have the red thirst, nor the black rage. Sadly all other Blood Angels Successors Primaris still have these flaws … that would be cool.

[Filius]

I correct and extend myself: I would be awesome to see the Crimson Fists as a full Chapter again, side by side with the Imperial Fist on the Indomidings Crusade. They deserve it.

 

Also … what I wrote about the Lamenters would also/instead be cool for the Flesh Tearers.

 

Also … the Raven Guard probably are already back at full size, but the also deserve a boost, especially from such unsneaky, bulky Uber-Astartes, to really, really kick some gluteus maximus traitoris.

[Race Bannon]

Fire Hawks.

 

High Lords Guilliman could just repurpose the Chapter heraldry and stuff.  Not like the Legion of the Damned are using it anymore ^_^

[KiltedMarine]

*snip*

I'd also would love to see a Primaris Space Wolves Successor … ha-haa … just kidding.

*snip*

You might be, but I'm not. It might start a murderous fight in The Fang, but I'd jump on Primaris Successors of Russ like a Blood Claw on an Ork Mob. Remember, the Vikings eventually became the Normans, who conquered the :cuss out of Europe, so thematically it kinda makes some sense...

[Sandlemad]

It would be a good reprieve for the Crimson Fists, perhaps, and they're the most level-headed of the sons of Dorn anyway. It would also be a good excuse for the Crimson Fists to retake their place as poster boys on codex covers and similar art, albeit for primaris marines.

[Excessus]

The Emperor's Swords! Bring them back! :D

[Machine God]

Emperors Pointy Sticks:-P

[Filius]

*snip*

I'd also would love to see a Primaris Space Wolves Successor … ha-haa … just kidding.

*snip*

You might be, but I'm not. It might start a murderous fight in The Fang, but I'd jump on Primaris Successors of Russ like a Blood Claw on an Ork Mob. Remember, the Vikings eventually became the Normans, who conquered the out of Europe, so thematically it kinda makes some sense...

Well but … don't the Wolves value their Loyalty above all? And that's for good reasons, or to quote Dan Abnett … "Space Marines are inherently tough, but the Space Wolves are particularly dangerous. They are ruthless. They are savage. They are brutal. It begs the question why would the Emperor permit something quite so dangerous and untamed to exist? That would be to take down another legion." … only their Loyalty makes the difference. So tell me: Logan Grimnar is a wise Great Wolf, a great Chaptermaster, one of most impressive Wolfs, that ever lived, but … he still is an Astartes and by that, he's one Level below Robout Guiliman. Who in turn is a Son of the Allfather, Blood from his Blood, Flesh from his Fleshm, a Brother of Leman Russ and – most improtantly – the only Primarch the Imperium currently has, the Lordcommander of the Imperium. What would a loyal man do?

[Damo1701]

*snip*

I'd also would love to see a Primaris Space Wolves Successor … ha-haa … just kidding.

*snip*

You might be, but I'm not. It might start a murderous fight in The Fang, but I'd jump on Primaris Successors of Russ like a Blood Claw on an Ork Mob. Remember, the Vikings eventually became the Normans, who conquered the out of Europe, so thematically it kinda makes some sense...

Well but … don't the Wolves value their Loyalty above all? And that's for good reasons, or to quote Dan Abnett … "Space Marines are inherently tough, but the Space Wolves are particularly dangerous. They are ruthless. They are savage. They are brutal. It begs the question why would the Emperor permit something quite so dangerous and untamed to exist? That would be to take down another legion." … only their Loyalty makes the difference. So tell me: Logan Grimnar is a wise Great Wolf, a great Chaptermaster, one of most impressive Wolfs, that ever lived, but … he still is an Astartes and by that, he's one Level below Robout Guiliman. Who in turn is a Son of the Allfather, Blood from his Blood, Flesh from his Fleshm, a Brother of Leman Russ and – most improtantly – the only Primarch the Imperium currently has, the Lordcommander of the Imperium. What would a loyal man do?

Don't forget that Grimnar went head to head with the Inquisition after the First War for Armageddon, which could have resulted in many Astartes casualties if the Grey Knights hadn't suffered such horrendous casualties banishing Angron.

It's true that, in the end, Grimnar pulled back, but, anything that goes against his view of the Will of the Emperor is subject to being hit, and hit hard, by as many Wolves as he can muster.

Though, it is interesting to see how Cawl/Guilliman used Russ's Geneseed, without the knowledge or assistance of Wolf Priests from the Fang. Keeping in mind that the only chapter to have used the Wolf seed was disbanded due to instability. Which is why Russ only has the one Chapter now, which has suffered terrible casualties recently.

[N1SB]

It would also be a good excuse for the Crimson Fists to retake their place as poster boys on codex covers and similar art, albeit for primaris marines.

 

 

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"Hold the line, Brothers!  After 7 editions, we're finally getting reinforcements!  HOLD THE LINE!"

[Filius]

*snip*

I'd also would love to see a Primaris Space Wolves Successor … ha-haa … just kidding.

*snip*

You might be, but I'm not. It might start a murderous fight in The Fang, but I'd jump on Primaris Successors of Russ like a Blood Claw on an Ork Mob. Remember, the Vikings eventually became the Normans, who conquered the out of Europe, so thematically it kinda makes some sense...

Well but … don't the Wolves value their Loyalty above all? And that's for good reasons, or to quote Dan Abnett … "Space Marines are inherently tough, but the Space Wolves are particularly dangerous. They are ruthless. They are savage. They are brutal. It begs the question why would the Emperor permit something quite so dangerous and untamed to exist? That would be to take down another legion." … only their Loyalty makes the difference. So tell me: Logan Grimnar is a wise Great Wolf, a great Chaptermaster, one of most impressive Wolfs, that ever lived, but … he still is an Astartes and by that, he's one Level below Robout Guiliman. Who in turn is a Son of the Allfather, Blood from his Blood, Flesh from his Fleshm, a Brother of Leman Russ and – most improtantly – the only Primarch the Imperium currently has, the Lordcommander of the Imperium. What would a loyal man do?

Don't forget that Grimnar went head to head with the Inquisition after the First War for Armageddon, which could have resulted in many Astartes casualties if the Grey Knights hadn't suffered such horrendous casualties banishing Angron.

It's true that, in the end, Grimnar pulled back, but, anything that goes against his view of the Will of the Emperor is subject to being hit, and hit hard, by as many Wolves as he can muster.

Though, it is interesting to see how Cawl/Guilliman used Russ's Geneseed, without the knowledge or assistance of Wolf Priests from the Fang. Keeping in mind that the only chapter to have used the Wolf seed was disbanded due to instability. Which is why Russ only has the one Chapter now, which has suffered terrible casualties recently.

Well as I said, Grimnar is a great Great Wolf … he sure is as stubborn and fierce and whatever virtue you might like within the Space Wolves … and he even might challange the Inquisition … but … the Inquisition does not have a Primarch. Truely … I doubt that someone, who is as loyal to the Allfather, as the Wolves claim to be and have proven to be, contests the Word of the last Son of the Emperor, the last Brother of Leman Russ. Especially when he offers much, much, much needed help.

It's not like Roboute has said "Oh come on, lets pull the plug from the golden Throne! Time for the old man to let go." or "You know, I spoke with Magnus and we settled things … he's on our side again." …

[Evil Eye]

Marines Malevolent. They're basically the original RT "Arsehole Space Cops with a Superiority Complex" in modern-day 40K and the thought of the most horrible, cruel and downright nasty "loyalist" Astartes of all time getting Primaris reinforcement is hilarious.

[Khornestar]

Celestial Lions, using NuMarines to get revenge on the Inquisition, then falling entirely to chaos in the process. :)

[Doghouse]

I think if he does another Founding then all chapters that were lost are fair game.

 

There are examples of Chapters re-using long lost heraldry and Chapter names as a way of retconning bits of lore and put down to admin errors by the Administratium. So realistically you could do any chapter you wanted.

 

 

Emperors Pointy Sticks:-P

 

Just no one tell the Cosmic Space Knights...of Doom about these new guys...no seriously don't tell them!

[Ovidius Incertus]

Lamenters could be cool.

 

The supposed "we don't have the flaw" (cough, cough, cough!) down-on-their-luck chapter would be a great choice, and could lead to some cool stories about how the flaw might still be there and magnified by the Primaris.  Indeed, it would actually be grimdark if their salvation actually turned into even greater tragic ruination.

[Knight of the Raven]

Iron Hands.

The real ones, I mean.

[bluntblade]

Iron Hands.

The real ones, I mean.

Eh?

[roryokane]

Iron Hands.

 

The real ones, I mean.

"The Flesh is Weak!"

"This flesh has two wounds, though..."

"VERY WELL. THE FLESH IS STRONG."

[KhorneHunter57x]

Luna Wolves.

Heresy, I know, but you're already meddling with the Emperor's work...and imagine how galling it would be for Abaddon to be laid low by Luna Wolves.

[sockwithaticket]

I'd rather established successors like the Scythes and Crimson Fists weren't sullied with this Primaris nonsense. Similarly the Astral Knights sacrifice should not be sullied by attaching their name to Cawl and Guilliman's Frankensteinian  experiments.

Bolster some Ultra successors no one cares about.

(Not a Primaris fan)

[Knight of the Raven]

I'd rather established successors like the Scythes and Crimson Fists weren't sullied with this Primaris nonsense. Similarly the Astral Knights sacrifice should not be sullied by attaching their name to Cawl and Guilliman's Frankensteinian  experiments.

 

Bolster some Ultra successors no one cares about.

 

(Not a Primaris fan)

Ah, the Astral Knights. Because real men don't wear plot armor.

 

That said, successors are exactly the chapters I expect to refuse primaris space marines, because they're not big sellers like the First Founding lot.

 

 

Iron Hands.

The real ones, I mean.

Eh?

The Iron Hands from before the "upgrade" that started with the 5th edition Codex: Space Marines and revealed itself in all its "glory" with the Clan Raukaan supplement. I confess I hardly knew them before the latter dropped, but it was the main reason (or rather the final nail in the coffin) we have seen so few Iron Hands armies on this forum for the past few years, all of which sought haven in the Age of Darkness.

[Skalpynock]

I want the new founding to bring back the Sons of the Emperor, Corpse Grinders, Children of the Night, Warhounds, Dusk Raiders, Brotherhood of a Thousand, Luna Wolves, Imperial Heralds, and the Ghost Chapter...