Valerian Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Psycannon is a joke, you pay 20 points to do on average 2 autocannon hits. Also, FYI, you cannot charge after firing them either. What do you mean by this? There is nothing to prevent you from charging after firing your Psycannons, or Storm bolters. Incinerators are just depressingly bad. It's the same disease for all old template/blast weapons. RNG sucks, and having no synergy with either Teleport Strike or our desire to get into melee...plus they're now 3 times as expensive for no discernible reason. Why bother? GW made a huge mistake chucking out the templates. I actually really like that they got rid of all of the templates and blast markers. The only issue is that they need to make the range for all of the basic Flamers/Incinerators 10" instead of 8", so you can actually use them from Reserves (and more reliably in Overwatch), and they should make the RNG outcomes a little larger (like 2d3, or d3+3, etc.). zewl, Trevak Dal and Zamtro 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seizeman Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) You can charge no matter which weapon you fire. Flamethrowers in general are pretty good this edition. The problem with incinerators is they are too expensive and can't be used after teleporting. Anyway, if you are assembling some new PAGK, I'd wait for the codex release next month. It's very likely they change special weapons so they become at least playable. Edited July 10, 2017 by Valerian Removed unnecessary part. Don't be a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Anyway, if you are assembling some new PAGK, I'd wait for the codex release next month. It's very likely they change special weapons so they become at least playable. So it's confirmed we're getting our codex next month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Yep, not long to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 What do you mean by this? There is nothing to prevent you from charging after firing your Psycannons, or Storm bolters. I really need to buy the core rulebook. Ignore, I'm getting confused by other players. I actually really like that they got rid of all of the templates and blast markers. The only issue is that they need to make the range for all of the basic Flamers/Incinerators 10" instead of 8", so you can actually use them from Reserves (and more reliably in Overwatch), and they should make the RNG outcomes a little larger (like 2d3, or d3+3, etc.). I suppose it's easier to resolve, but yeah with the other issues still currently holding back incinerators (no synergy with Teleport Strike, low average impact), I won't be using them till they're reworked. It's especially confusing sometimes because my group is still active 30k, so I have to mentally switch back to using templates. Flamethrowers in general are pretty good this edition. The problem with incinerators is they are too expensive and can't be used after teleporting. Anyway, if you are assembling some new PAGK, I'd wait for the codex release next month. It's very likely they change special weapons so they become at least playable. They're still good at killing Flyers ;) I seriously hope they change that eventually, it's kind of absurd that everything else misses more but you can burn planes out of the sky. Strikes and Interceptors are great now, but yeah I wouldn't be building any special weapon guys for now. So it's confirmed we're getting our codex next month? Sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 You can download the core rules in the Battle Primer here for free. Myunch 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Dealer 101 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just be wary about swapping out models to Falchions, blind freddy can see they are the better option so they might get a points increase in the codex. Trevak Dal 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Just be wary about swapping out models to Falchions, blind freddy can see they are the better option so they might get a points increase in the codex. I was thinking of sawing off the terminator/paladin models that have sword's into falchions...because they are just that much better. But hesitate before the codex. For PA models though, they're probably worth it even if they end up costing points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Hey fellas I've looked on Google and I don't know if I'm searching wrong but I'm not finding any conversions of Count as Voldus. Lots of the actual model, Guilliman and cypher and for some reason Nurgle stuff but does anyone have a guide or any particular suggestions for making him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soder Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) I'm gonna use the old librarian in terminator armor model for my Voldus most likely. Waiting for our codex to come out before I do anything final tho. Drill out the head and replace with a GK one. Slap a stormbolter on it and cut off the stave. I've also got a bunch of extra bits to make a different looking hammer for him to represent it being a unique weapon.. I think I've got a space wolves hammer that I can add a bunch of GK accessories to. And probably cut off the top of a warding stave and stick it on his back to represent his "iron halo" Alternatevly I've seen people are selling him on eBay for approx. $30 CAD I just don't care to spend the extra money Edited July 14, 2017 by Soder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seizeman Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Why use a sm terminator model when you can use regular grey knight terminators for the librarian? Just assemble a regular terminator, use one of the unhelmeted heads if you want, put a nice standard-back thingie and a loincloth on it, give him some books and add some extra detail if you want to and you have a perfectly good ( a lot better than the sm one in my opinion) GK librarian. Or just buy a Voluds on the secondary market and use him as a librarian or a regular GM, or even as himself XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Hey fellas I've looked on Google and I don't know if I'm searching wrong but I'm not finding any conversions of Count as Voldus. Lots of the actual model, Guilliman and cypher and for some reason Nurgle stuff but does anyone have a guide or any particular suggestions for making him? I bought mine off of eBay for less than $20 USD, so I figured I'd just get the real thing for a reasonable price, rather than kit-bash my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soder Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OU3Fa6bDUMo/T0DG90Fa4RI/AAAAAAAAA1I/xpYqXwfQXdM/s1600/GK+LIBBY2.jpg That was my inspiration for what will most likely be my Voldus model. With GK shoulders and such will look like a GK enough for me! Just imagine him with a cool hammer :) But ya I agree, easiest way would be to just customize a termie Edited July 14, 2017 by Soder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 I'm planning on converting a GK terminator, adding a suitable bare, bearded head from my bits box, adding a cape (I think there's one on the Deathwing Knights sprue) and a back banner and finding a suitable hammer from somewhere and calling it a day. I like the Voldus model but I think I'd prefer to have a unique version of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 I'm using my Mordrak as a Voldus stand in. Feels spiritually correct. SJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soder Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just wondering, does the PAGK box come with enough dual falchions for 5 PA? By the look of things there's only enough for thee of them...? Ya only 3 sets of falchions, I checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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