Helias_Tancred Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Subject line says it all. If you were just starting a Grey Knight collection, small force, which GK HQ would you get to start with? Thank you. For 8th mind you ;) A named guy like Stern, or a Terminator Librarian for example? Or Voldus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Definitely Voldus. He's 45 points cheaper than he was, and combines the best parts of a Grand Master, and a Librarian, but he's more souped up than our Librarian option can be. He's everything you'd ever need in an HQ. I got mine for a very reasonable price off of eBay. Or, you can just build one of your own out of the GK Terminator kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seizeman Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Voldus, no reason to pick anything else except lack op points. I use Draigo on my list instead just because I did not know what to do with the last 50 points, but Voldus is the most efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Ill third that, Voldus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Yup Voldus is the best bang for the now it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclusiarch Darius Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Yeah Voldus has everything you want. Hammer that hits on a 3+, three powers a turn (and access to all Santic plus Smite), still brings Grandmaster aura. It's depressing comparing him to a generic GM, there is literally no reason not to take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Yeah Voldus has everything you want. Hammer that hits on a 3+, three powers a turn (and access to all Santic plus Smite), still brings Grandmaster aura. It's depressing comparing him to a generic GM, there is literally no reason not to take him. I believe he's still hitting that Hammer on a 2+. Malleus Argyrum doesn't have that -1 to hit. Even more of a reason to take him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 That's how I read it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Yeah, that's what makes his hammer special, no negative to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 He's gone from being a dud in 7th, to the default choice in 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 I also suspect once the GK codex drops he'll get even more buffs :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 In regards to Voldus, an interesting thing of note, on his profile it says he can attempt to cast 3 psychic powers and deny 3 opposing powers. In comparison to Tigurius, it says he can attempt to cast 3 psychic powers and deny TWO opposing powers. Is this a nod from GW, that the Grandmaster of GK librarians, themselves regarded as psykers among psykers...is a more potent psyker than the prodigious Tigurius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 It always irked me that Tiggy was more powerful than a GK GM or libby in game. Although tbh I dont know if the fluff supports that interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 In regards to Voldus, an interesting thing of note, on his profile it says he can attempt to cast 3 psychic powers and deny 3 opposing powers. In comparison to Tigurius, it says he can attempt to cast 3 psychic powers and deny TWO opposing powers. Is this a nod from GW, that the Grandmaster of GK librarians, themselves regarded as psykers among psykers...is a more potent psyker than the prodigious Tigurius? Off the top of my head I believe the only others that can manifest and deny 3 powers in 8th are Magnus, Kairos and Ahriman, even Eldrad can only deny 2 powers... I'd like to think it is a nod to Voldus' psychic prowess =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 What are people's thoughts on Draigo? They've kept him at 240 points but he seems just as beastly with his 8e transition. Barring Calgar (250 points), I think he is the most expensive Chapter Master. Is he worth the points if you want to field him? What role would he best serve as? What units would you want him to be around? I like the fluff they included in his profile as when ever you want him in your army, he'll pop in from his continual journey in the warp to help you smash face for that battle! Also, with Daemon Primarch's roaming around on the tabletop these days, I like the idea of Draigo warping into charging distance ready for a Friday night brawl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myunch Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 What are people's thoughts on Draigo? They've kept him at 240 points but he seems just as beastly with his 8e transition. Barring Calgar (250 points), I think he is the most expensive Chapter Master. Is he worth the points if you want to field him? What role would he best serve as? What units would you want him to be around? I like the fluff they included in his profile as when ever you want him in your army, he'll pop in from his continual journey in the warp to help you smash face for that battle! Also, with Daemon Primarch's roaming around on the tabletop these days, I like the idea of Draigo warping into charging distance ready for a Friday night brawl! On paper, he seems like an absolute beast, but a better way of putting it may be this.... lol "Lord Kaldor Draigo is a combat monster - there's no other way to describe him. He's lethal against non-daemonic foes, with plenty of Strength 8 force weapon attacks to lay a beat down. Even if his enemy survives, Draigo's storm shield is sure to keep him fighting. And on top of all of this, Draigo is a Grand Master, able to bestow extra abilities on his allies. Want your Dreadknight to capture objectives? Draigo can make that happen. Want a Scouting screen of Dreadnoughts? Draigo can make it happen. He's the best possible way to keep your opponent on his toes." I couldn't help myself =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Why you scamp! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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