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Forgeworld or Index Imperium?


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Hey everyone! I'm looking around for what army to play and examining as many options as I can. I think the chaos cultists models look really good. Anyone know if the cultist sprues can be run with the Index Imperium rules for Astra Militarum? 

 

I noticed another post about the Forgeworld book and I know that not a lot of information has been revealed about it. Mainly just playing fun games with some friends but I might also think about taking it to some tournaments so I want to make sure I'm using the best source for rules if I decide to go with Renegades.

 

Anyway, thanks in advance for your thoughts.



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If you're playing the GW cultist models and want to go wysiwyg, then AM isn't the best place. At least half the GW cultists have close combat weapons and pistols, and that's not an options in AM. If counting them all as rifles is not a big deal, the AM is a pretty solid list.

R&H In 7th was a very awesome list that ended up having some fairly competitive options. Only time will tell if we will be able to do that in 8th.
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Easiest will always be using the index and running count as. FW has said they are going to be releasing that sometime soon after the firsr wave.

Personally I am leaning more towards Index because now you can take Penitent engines....and flagellents....and other things you can convert. And Admech....dark mech....mmmmm tasty
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Thank you for your opinions!



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Looks like we are going to need:

Rule book
Index Imperium 1
Index Imperium 2
Index Chaos
Index Astra Militarum
Index Forces of Chaos

To run a fleshed out arenegades force :(

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Looks like we are going to need:

Rule book
Index Imperium 1
Index Imperium 2
Index Chaos
Index Astra Militarum
Index Forces of Chaos

To run a fleshed out arenegades force sad.png

Why Imperial 1? 

But yes to the rest :(


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I was thinking of running some renegades too.  Thank God with the streamlining we don't need to carry around a library anymore!...Oh, wait how many indexes is that!?!


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Really only need Imperium 2 and the Chaos book.



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Really only need Imperium 2 and the Chaos book.

And the FW Chaos Index, and the FW Astra Militarum Index for max flavour :P


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Well....yes if you want to go flavor but if you want to get by well...it's not as bad as it could be.

Still only 4 books? Compared to last edition that is nothing.

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The FW chaos index has what 3 or so units for R&H? I'll pass, and technically you probably don't need the chaos index either. Just the Imperium 2 index and the AM FW index really isn't that bad. 


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The FW chaos index has what 3 or so units for R&H? I'll pass, and technically you probably don't need the chaos index either. Just the Imperium 2 index and the AM FW index really isn't that bad. 

 

There are a lot of units that are purely Renegade (at least 15). And based on IAXIII, most of the tanks, sentinels and lords of war in the AM list and the FW AM book (except for Death Korps and Elysians' own units) will probable be usuable for Renegades, but the chaos index units - being all within the same faction - will surely be able to be mixed in to a Renegade army? 

 

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In the past Renegades list, there were:

 

  • HQ - demagogues
  • HQ - their command sqauds
  • HQ - enforcers
  • HQ - psykers
  • TROOPS - renegade infantry platoons
  • TROOPS - mutant rabbles
  • TROOPS - rveterans
  • TROOPS - rzombies
  • ELITES - disciples
  • ELITES - ogryns
  • ELITES - maruaders
  • ELITES - Blood Slaughterer
  • ELITES - Blight Drone
  • ELITES - Noise Marines
  • ELITES - Sonic Dreadnought (RIP - although FB team passed this complaint onto the rules team, apparently)
  • FAST ATTACK - Hellhounds
  • FAST ATTACK - Sentinels
  • FAST ATTACK - Salamanders
  • FAST ATTACK - Valkyries
  • HEAVY SUPPORT - Renegade weapons teams
  • HEAVY SUPPORT - Leman Russes, including Conquerors
  • HEAVY SUPPORT - Rapiers
  • HEAVY SUPPORT - Heavy Ordinance (the Batteries in the contents above)
  • HEAVY SUPPORT - Basilisks and Medusas Squadron
  • HEAVY SUPPORT - Field Support guns (Heavy Quad Launchers or Heavy Mortars)
  • HEAVY SUPPORT - Gryffons or Wyverns
  • HEAVY SUPPORT - Hydras
  • HEAVY SUPPORT - Colossus
  • LORD OF WAR - Baneblade, Malcador Heavy Tank, Malcador Defender, Minotaur Artillery Tank
  • LORD OF WAR - An'ggrath the Unbound, Scabiethrax, Zaraknyei, or Aetaos'rau'keres
  • LORD OF WAR (Mutant) -  Giant Chaos Spawn, Spined Chaos Beasts
  • LORD OF WAR (Khorne) - Lord of Skulls or Greater Brass Scorpion
  • LORD OF WAR (Archfield) - Macharius varients
  • LORD OF WAR (Heretek) - Valdor Tank Hunter, Greater Brass Scorpion, Chaos Warhound Titan, or Chaos Reaver Titan

 

Finally, because of the Chaos keyword, you'll be able to mix fearlessly with all the other chaos forces msn-wink.gif


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Given there are basically no R&H players who don't also have a CSM army, it's hardly a loss that we may need the chaos index as well to use the renegades list. Regardless I'm really looking forward to seeing the rules when they are out tomorrow, hoping for some decent and fun rules for R&H. 


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Given there are basically no R&H players who don't also have a CSM army, it's hardly a loss that we may need the chaos index as well to use the renegades list. Regardless I'm really looking forward to seeing the rules when they are out tomorrow, hoping for some decent and fun rules for R&H. 

 

Me too, although I think it is Saturday the AM and Xenos indices come out (curses, I wish they were out tomorrow too!)


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I have the digital. All you need is Imperium 2 and the FW AM index.
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Uncertain worth is still a thing. You have to take a Renegade Commander to unlock covenants, but all units have to have the same covenant as the commander.
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From a quick look all previous options are the only options. No new options, so no Shadowswords etc..

Also no Macharius or Valdor.

Edited by Karinon, Today, 01:01 AM.





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