Daimhin Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hi all! I'm thinking of starting an Adeptus Mechanicus army with the coming of 8th edition. I used to play 40k years ago but stopped for a long time, until January this year. When I used to play (RT, 2nd, 3rd) Ad Mech and Skirtari weren't armies! The reason I'm looking at them now is simply that I really like some of the models, but I really don't know anything more than that! So I'm looking for advice and suggestions. I'm thinking of getting the following: 2x Start Collecting! Skitarii 1x Adeptus Mechanicus Kastelan Robots 1x Adeptus Mechanicus Corpuscarii Electro-Priests Thoughts/ feedback/ things I haven't considered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Looks good to start with ! Regarding the E-Priests: i built 5 Corpuscarii from the box and then got myself some Flagellants to build Fulgurite out of the remaining bitz. Cheap way to get 10 E-Priests out of 1 box instead of just 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trydragon Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Things for Note you only get 1 each of the vanguard/Rangers Spe weapons in the Starter Set so if you want too run a full set of 3 you need to buy a set of said ranger/Vanguards. I recommend the Neutron Laser and Icarus Array for your Duncrawlers. Other then that Nice starting force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apostle of the 30th Host Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hi all! I'm thinking of starting an Adeptus Mechanicus army with the coming of 8th edition. I used to play 40k years ago but stopped for a long time, until January this year. When I used to play (RT, 2nd, 3rd) Ad Mech and Skirtari weren't armies! The reason I'm looking at them now is simply that I really like some of the models, but I really don't know anything more than that! So I'm looking for advice and suggestions. I'm thinking of getting the following: 2x Start Collecting! Skitarii 1x Adeptus Mechanicus Kastelan Robots 1x Adeptus Mechanicus Corpuscarii Electro-Priests Thoughts/ feedback/ things I haven't considered? Hey! Welcome back to 40k and to the Adeptus Mechanicus! The models are gorgeous, and 8th Edition rules look good so this is definitely a great time to get started. So with what you have listed, you'll have the following: HQ: 2x Tech-Priest Dominus Troops: 2x10 Skitarii Vanguard/Rangers Elites: 1 Datasmith (From Kastelan Set) 1x5 Corpuscarii Electro-Priests Heavy Support: 2x Onager Dunecrawlers 1x2 Kastelan Robots That is a decent start to an army. I would suggest a couple of extra purchases on top of this however. - 4x Plasma Calivers (they are really good) Get these form bits sites or Ebay. You can have 3 Special Weapons per squad, but only get 1 of each per box. I would run your 20 Skitarii as 2x10 Vanguard with 3 Plasma Calivers each, so you would need 4 extra. - 1x Kataphron Box These build either Breachers or Destroyers and will give you a 3rd Troops choice. Personally I would choose Destroyers with Heavy Grav-Cannons but it is really down to preference on your part and what you want them to do. Torsion Cannon Breachers would do well against Vehicles. - A second Corpuscarii box These tend to work better in higher numbers (at least in 7th, but 8th rules would suggest the same). I would always run a minimum of 10-15 if you can. Other than that, that's a pretty decent start. Onagers are amazing and have some fantastic weapons (Neutron Laser is my favourite). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Welcome back to the hobby! If you do choose to start an AdMech army, make sure to change your avatar appropriately :) Don't want to anger the Omnissiah, after all! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Welcome back to the hobby! If you do choose to start an AdMech army, make sure to change your avatar appropriately Don't want to anger the Omnissiah, after all! Still running a full Brigade of Sisters, so Ad Mech will be a way off that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 - 4x Plasma Calivers (they are really good) Get these form bits sites or Ebay. You have have 3 Special Weapons per squad, but only get 1 of each per box. I would run your 20 Skitarii as 2x10 Vanguard with 3 Plasma Calivers each, so you would need 4 extra. That's good to know. I think I'll run one of them as Rangers with that stupidly long gun (!) since that's actually one of the models that is tempting me to start the army in the first place! Can you advise for a build with that in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Welcome back to the hobby! If you do choose to start an AdMech army, make sure to change your avatar appropriately Don't want to anger the Omnissiah, after all! I approve of this message! As a person that hasn't had regular games since 2nd Edition I know how that feels. This is a great army to start with. The models are a bit fiddly to paint but they are really worth it. I think they are some of the best models Games Workshop have produced and hopefully you'll enjoy them as much as the rest of us. Edit: I just got your reply so I will add to it. I think the preferred build for the Transuranic Arquebus is to place them in minimum-sized squads and have two in each squad. I don't know how many of these squads people would advise but for every five man squad you've only got three guys with Galvanic rifles so you won't lose out on much firepower (you may find them in range of a target anyway since 30" is pretty effective anyway). I have a full squad of ten guys with three Arquebus that I built because the weapon looked interesting to me. It's probably less efficient but I bet sticking them in cover and letting them annoy infantry and characters will still work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Edit: I just got your reply so I will add to it. I think the preferred build for the Transuranic Arquebus is to place them in minimum-sized squads and have two in each squad. I don't know how many of these squads people would advise but for every five man squad you've only got three guys with Galvanic rifles so you won't lose out on much firepower (you may find them in range of a target anyway since 30" is pretty effective anyway). I have a full squad of ten guys with three Arquebus that I built because the weapon looked interesting to me. It's probably less efficient but I bet sticking them in cover and letting them annoy infantry and characters will still work out. So with these two boxes I could run 1x10 Vanguard (3 Plasma Calivers) and 2x5 Rangers (4 Transuranic Arquebus) but would need to somehow source 1 Plasma Caliver and 2 Transuranic Arquebus? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apostle of the 30th Host Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 - 4x Plasma Calivers (they are really good) Get these form bits sites or Ebay. You have have 3 Special Weapons per squad, but only get 1 of each per box. I would run your 20 Skitarii as 2x10 Vanguard with 3 Plasma Calivers each, so you would need 4 extra. That's good to know. I think I'll run one of them as Rangers with that stupidly long gun (!) since that's actually one of the models that is tempting me to start the army in the first place! Can you advise for a build with that in mind? It depends on how many points you want to play and how much you want to spend to get started really. For me, the Vanguard are there to get in your opponent's face - they have a short range and lots of shots, you push them forward; Rangers are more support/gunline troops. Ideally, an army would have a mix of both Vanguard to press and Rangers to hold and support. but at a starter level, you could focus on one or the other. This leave you with 2 options really: 1. Specialise If a gunline is your style of play, you could build 2x10 Rangers with 3 Transuranic Arquebus' (long gun thing) each. Same applies as with the Plasma Caliver - you get one in each set, get 4 more second hand. This sort of army would sit back and shoot with your two Tech-Priests healing and giving some re-rolls. Kataphrons and Kastelans can deal with enemy Elites and Vehicles/Monsters (whilst getting healed by the Tech-Priests / Datasmith) whilst having plenty of wounds to absorb return fire. Onagers support the gunline (maybe anchor the flanks or can strengthen the centre with Ld buff equipment) with long range. Your Corpuscarii can counter any close combat opponents. That is a basic overview but it can work in good terrain. Give the Rangers Omniscopes to ignore cover with their guns. 2. Balance This is how I would run a smaller AdMech army. Stick with the 2x10 Vanguard with 3 Plasma Calivers each. These are your aggressive infantry who can push the enemy. But add to this an additional box of Rangers. This does mean a bit more money upfront but then you have 3x10 Skitarii which is a much stronger core when combined with the other purchases. That way you can have the 10 Rangers and Kataphrons as support units whilst your 2x10 Vanguard take your objectives. 3 Boxes also give you 3 Plasma Calivers and 3 Transuranic Arquebus', meaning you only need to get 3 more Plasma Calivers second hand. This would be my preferred choice as Rangers and Vanguard have different roles that compliment nicely - but one of each is too few if that makes sense? i.e. 20 Skitarii split as 1x10 Vanguard and 1x10 Rangers leaves the Vanguard easy to counter as a single aggressive unit - pairs are therefore better if they push on the enemy making 30 split as 2x10 Vanguard and 1x10 Rangers more flexible. In this kind of army, the rest of your forces can push or support as needed. *In reference to Flameboys post 2x10 Vanguard and 2x5 Rangers would also work as 2 smaller support squads with 2 Transuranic Arquebus' each. Vanguard are still better as 2x10 though as you need the numbers. Would look like this (an easy 1500 point force) 2x Tech-Priests 2x10 Vanguard 1x10 Rangers 1x3 Kataphrons Datasmith 1x10 Corpuscarii 2x Onagers 1x2 Kastelans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 Would look like this (an easy 1500 point force) 2x Tech-Priests 2x10 Vanguard 1x10 Rangers 1x3 Kataphrons Datasmith 1x10 Corpuscarii 2x Onagers 1x2 Kastelans Thanks for this. I think that is probably a good force to aim for, but I don't think I'll get all that this Saturday ;) My local store will be doing Power Level 50 games, and since that's where these guys will probably get run out 9 times out of 10, I'll look to getting sorted for that level of play first. Thank you (all) for the heads-up about the lack of special weapons though! That's a real bummer and looking on eBay doesn't really provide an answer to it.. Arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 How are Arc Rifles looking in 8th? Thinking with a 3rd squad I could run 3 squads of 10 each with 3 special weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Arc rifles are now extremely cheap, but as vehicles got a lot tougher (more wounds, armour save) they aren't nearly as killy against vehicles, but at least get that nice AP-1 now. Take as many as possible, they are worth their points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 additional Transuranic Arquebus acquired. Still no sign of Plasma Calivers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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