The Yak Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I did some sneaking about on the rumours forum and found this.... Anybody have the rules for Lias Issodon or Tyberos?Lias Issodon borders on OP to me. +2 in cover instead of +1, all infantry within aura range add one to move, advance, and charge distances, and he can deep strike along with three power armored units (basically three drop pods), all for the price of 19.5 heavy bolters... Oh and his gun is an assault 3 bolt rifle... but with meltagun ap and d3 damage. MajorNese, ddarz and hammer grimblood 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Good! A very decent character so far. Would rather see the actual entry though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baza Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 http://imgur.com/hWqSQqZ Race Bannon and Sun Reaver 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Poe Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Wow, Issadon is looking really good! at 10PL he's going to be around how many points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Wow, Issadon is looking really good! at 10PL he's going to be around how many points? Pedro Cantor is 9PL and 170p, so I guess 200p. Nonetheless, being 3 drop pods in person is definitely good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Wow.....just wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Poe Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Maybe a little under 200 pts, 180 or 190? If I understand his rules correctly, you would only need an 8 for a successful charge? Talk about huge... Or, 3 stern/dev squads with no need for drop pods. Gosh, I feel like thats almost too good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baza Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Maybe a little under 200 pts, 180 or 190? If I understand his rules correctly, you would only need an 8 for a successful charge? Talk about huge... Or, 3 stern/dev squads with no need for drop pods. Gosh, I feel like thats almost too good... 195 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddarz Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I picked up my copy from WW today... I am really happy with how the Lias turned outHonestly it feels as if he got the best deal (and attention) out of all of the characters 7" move ;) Custom (amazing) Bolter, Custom Sword, Pistol for good measure Chapter master rule makes him a great fit for sticking near any unit Stealth armour is fluffy, makes him 0+ in ruins. No invul thoug so be wary IID was removed - but fair enough, I always felt bad using that. It's replacement is pretty good actually. All raptors get a 7" move near him!Grim Hunter is fantastic! Being able to fall back and shoot is one of the best abilities in 8th And master of Ambush is better than infiltrate in almost every way. Pick any turn, pop up behind a character and shoot him. For Free.Yeah. I'm happy. Makes up for the other lacklustre rules (relic, fire raptor, etc.)Now all we need is our chapter tactics. Although it's very easy to extrapolate the legendary marksmen to 8th. Every to Hit roll (not to wound, I think to Hit is fluffier) does a mortal wound in addition to other damage. No sure about the other part of the rule...+2 to saves for the first turn...? Meh, I never liked that one The Yak 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer grimblood Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) How are you guys going to represent his "Stealth Modified Armour"? Edit: Anyone have the rules for Tyberos? Doing a force with both Raptors and Charcharadons would be very neat. The forgotten sons of Corax. Edited June 17, 2017 by hammer grimblood The Yak 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Power armor and rolled up scout cloak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddarz Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Forge world recon armour for now Forge world mor deythan later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yak Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 Well personally I've always imagined him hooded and camo cloaked up. MajorNese has a cracking version of him just as so. For 5 years I've contemplated how to model this legend...... This calls for another thread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I picked up my copy from WW today... I am really happy with how the Lias turned out Honestly it feels as if he got the best deal (and attention) out of all of the characters 7" move Custom (amazing) Bolter, Custom Sword, Pistol for good measure Chapter master rule makes him a great fit for sticking near any unit Stealth armour is fluffy, makes him 0+ in ruins. No invul thoug so be wary IID was removed - but fair enough, I always felt bad using that. It's replacement is pretty good actually. All raptors get a 7" move near him! Grim Hunter is fantastic! Being able to fall back and shoot is one of the best abilities in 8th And master of Ambush is better than infiltrate in almost every way. Pick any turn, pop up behind a character and shoot him. For Free. The list is great. Especially as his rifle is Assault, and his CC weapon quite awesome. Contrary to Shrike, even a 2+ armour. As for the stealth modified armour, it's the same bonus as a camo cloak, so just use one of those. Easiest source for that are deathwatch killteam sprues, one torso with modeled cloak, ammo holders at the torso front, fits directly. Alternatively, there are several Tau ghost paintjobs with a stealth effect, that would look badass too, even if it contradicts the whole "adapt" thing. Master of Ambush is what lists can be built around. Place just few standard units during deployment (with alternating deployment, increases chances of going first), then on your first turn drop an entire infantry-based firebase wherever it fits the situation. Issodon for that nice reroll bubble, devs with lascannons/plasmacannons, tacs with all kinds of weapons (9" - rapid fire range), and even more dropped units with jump packs. Essentially, half a company in power armour, where you want them, when you want them, and moving out faster than they should. Talk about an ambush... The Yak 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) Ambushing Centurions?! That's almost broken. I'd totally do that without remorse. A lot. Edited June 17, 2017 by Race Bannon Sun Reaver 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Ambushing Centurions?! That's almost broken. I'd totally do that without remorse. A lot. Nope, not centurions. Cents, terminators and primaris can't use that ability, just other infantry. But even the power armoured infantry can do quite a bit, thanks to split fire everything, and lots of special/heavy weapons. And charge from reserves (that 9" charge was just decreased to 8"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrés Pacheco Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Infiltrate a librarian with a VV squad, cast Veil of Time and have a rerollable 8+ charge. Raptor assaults just got Claw, Piling On :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yak Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 Ambush is the key. These rules probably allow for the Finest distilled Raptor Juice ever transferable to a 40K game!! I've seen a few people state he is overpowered, it's true he could be subjected to abuse by power gamers. However I try to use modest, balanced, thematic forces and feel it allows for the perfectly executed ambush. This in turn matches the vision I have in my head for our beloved Olive Drab Skink'abouts. In fact it's fits better (imho) than the old Chapter Tactics. I always took the fluff about us having some of the best marksmen to mean that we were capable of excelling further in the art of the sniper than other chapters. As opposed to every single marine (and scouts) being automatically better shots. I felt myself turning into a Boromir meme. "One does not simply become a good shot because of the geneseed!" It takes dedication and and and I'm rambling aren't I? Its just I'm so happy. From a lot of things I've read recently, there seems to be a fear of individual chapters loosing their own flavour. I'm thankful that with The Grim leading us we will retain that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Oh, whoops :blush: Remind me not to read stuff on my cell phone while using the can at a birthday party. The Yak, Othniel's Blade and Sun Reaver 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yak Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 Lias Pissodon? Dragolord19d and Race Bannon 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomsk the Pragmatist Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Rad and Fluffy, sounds like a good start to the way Raptors will be portrayed this edition. Particularly the nod to "Warzone Specific Camouflage" through his Stealth Modified Armor rule. Hoping that Raptors Chapter Tactics keep this trend going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfender Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 how many different chapters are getting special characters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Honour guard with a ton of power axes infiltrating? yes please ONDIG 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfender Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I can only hope they do this for a lot of chapters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autek mor Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 i think its unfair to say he is OP considering the obvious weaknesses in most chapters. it wouldn't be an issue if transports were cheaper or other chapters had practical and comparable buffs available on the cheap. personally im leaning towards asterion moloc for suicide charges but thats a subject for another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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