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Starting a second army: Deathguard and Chaos


micahwc

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List version 2.0, Spearhead Detachment (+1 command point), 2,000 points.

 

HQ

  • Chaos Lord, plasma pistol, power axe   (helps the havoks hit and provides counter charge)
  • Chaos Sorceror, plasma  (provides prescience and counter charge)

Elite

  • 5x Chosen, 4x plasma guns
  • 5x Chosen, 4x plasma guns
  • Rhino, combi-bolter, combi-flamer
  • Rhino, combi-bolter, combi-flamer

Troops

  • 25x chaos cultists, autoguns (bubble wrap/objective holding, etc)
  • 22x chaos cultists, autoguns (as above)

Heavy Support

 

  • 5x Havoks, 4x missile launchers
  • 5x Havoks, 4x missile launchers
  • 5x Havoks, 4x missile launchers
  • 5x Havoks, 4x missile launchers
  • Hellforged scorpius, scorpius launcher, combi-bolter, combi-flamer
  • Hellforged scorpius, scorpius launcher, combi-bolter, combi-flamer
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Am considering dropping the chaos cultists and adding a second detachment of Renegade Cultists instead. I can run 2 malefic lords and 35 renegade cultists as a battalion for another command point, or run 41 renegade cultists with a malefic lord as a company. The malefic lord seems like a good way to get some extra psychic powers in.

 

Also an edit to the list, the chosen have a power axe and plasma pistol on the sergeant. 

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I felt like my plague lord needed a better base. I didn't like how he was standing on a nurgling so I changed it up a bit.

 

http://i.imgur.com/riWSstx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7RHk2g6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZjmYelJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hqQf1OF.jpg

 

Poor Death Company marine is struggling to raise his bolter. His leg has been severed and he has a nasty axe cut across his chest. Soon he will find the death he has yearned for.

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Came back from a wedding and $30 of missile launchers are missing. So I went with lascannons instead since I had some on hand. I took hands from bolters and added them to anvil industries lascannons

 

http://i.imgur.com/yNBVV3j.jpg

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Stayed home sick today and did a lot of work.

 

Here are all my heavy weapon dudes.

http://i.imgur.com/0d5NHkE.jpg

 

6 lascanons, 6 heavy bolters, and 2 missile launchers.

 

A chaos sorcerer with force sword and plasma pistol

http://i.imgur.com/VtUf6CD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VvUcB5o.jpg

 

 

And a dark apostle

http://i.imgur.com/DL1RNzH.jpg

Supposed to be a power maul I know but I figured a counts as power maul power spear with some heretical scripture hanging off it would work.

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Those guns look a bit small for lascannons though I imagine you're saving some cash by buying third party bits. Shame about the missiles missing, they seem pretty solid now in 8th.

I agree, they look more like Astartes versions of an imperial Lasgun instead of a proper Lascannon. ^^

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Hmm. May have to rethink the lascannons since they are smaller than the heavy bolters. I have looked everywhere (I even cleaned my craft area) for the damn missile launchers and can't find them, I must concede them lost to the warp. My wife was the only person home while I was gone and she swears she didn't do anything to them..... I think she worships the corpse emperor in secret. Really annoying, it was 16 astarte missile launchers with arms at about $2 a piece. 

 

I'm thinking of dropping the Scorpius' just because they don't benefit from any of the special legion rules and hellbrutes/dreadnaughts do. They seem pretty good on paper, but they are also really expensive for what they provide. Thoughts? I don't really wan't to only bring 1, as without other armor on the table I'm sure 1 won't survive very long. As an aside, I think it's really cool that as they get damaged and get worse at shooting, they get better at melee combat. 

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I shaved the imperial emblems off the sorcerer and the dark apostle, and added capes, cause any good villain needs a cape. Worked on my plague drone's paint a bit and based it. 

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Just placed an order from Hoardobits, got 6 sets of Dark Angel weapons. Each set includes 1 missile launcher, multiple plasma pistols of both right and left handed variety, a few power swords and chainswords, and a few bolters. Each set was about $2. So when all is said and done I will have 8 missile launchers, and 6 heavy bolters. 

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Newest version of my list is as follows. It's two detachments. 1 of Alpha Legion, and one of Renegades and Heretics. 

 

Battalion Detachment, +3 command points, Alpha Legion

 

HQ

  • Sorcerer, plasma pistol, force sword
  • Dark Apostle, plasma pistol, power maul

Troops

  • 30 chaos marines with 6 heavy bolters, either 5x6 or 3x10. 

Heavy Support

  • 5 Havoks, 4 missile launchers
  • 5 Havoks, 4 missile launchers

Elites

  • 5 chosen, 4 plasma guns
  • 5 chosen, 4 plasma guns

Spearhead Detachment, +1 command point, Renegades and Heretics

 

HQ

  • Malefic Lord

Heavy Support

  • Earthshaker Carriage, 4 crew
  • Earthshaker Carriage, 4 crew
  • Earthshaker Carriage, 4 crew

 

In total this gives me 7 command points, and is a hair over 1500 points. Still need to figure out what to do with the rest of my points, although bringing both Scorpius' in the battalion detachment would put me close to 2,000. I'm very tempted to add 40 cultists to the battalion and use their Alpha Legion strategem to infiltrate them 9" away from the enemy line before the first turn of the game. Just as a distraction this sounds fun to me. 

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Just found out today that there is a local tournament on the 21st of August. 1,500 points, battle forged, 3 detachments max, Forgeworld is allowed as long as you bring a copy of the rulebook. Extra points for a 3 color paint scheme on everything, and extra points for everything being based thematically. Even more points if you bring a display board.

 

Trying to come up with a list. I'm thinking about a battalion detachment of chaos marines and chosen, and a spearhead detachment of havoks and scorpius tanks. Need to come up with a list.

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Tentative tournament list made from models I own or will own by the 21st of August. 3 detachments, 8 command points total

 

Detachment 1, battalion detachment, Keyword: Alpha Legion 415 points

 

HQ

  • Sorcerer, plasma pistol, force sword
  • Dark Apostle, plasma pistol, power maul

Troops

  • 5 chaos space marines, 1 Heavy Bolter
  • 5 chaos space marines, 1 Heavy Bolter
  • 5 chaos space marines, 1 Heavy Bolter

Detachment 2, Spearhead detachment, 686 points

 

HQ

  • Chaos Lord, plasma pistol, power axe

Heavy Support

 

  • 5x Havoks with 4 missile launchers
  • 5x Havoks with 4 missile launchers
  • 5x Havoks with 4 Lascannons

Detachment 3, Vanguard Detatchment, 482 points

 

HQ

  • Chaos Lord, Plasma Pistol, Power Axe

Elite

  • 5 Chosen, 4x Plasma
  • 5 Chosen, 4x Plasma
  • 5 Chosen, 4x Plasma
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Why so many separate detachments? You could just drop a lord and take a battalion detachment.

 

Also I like the R&H detachment you made, simple detachment of a cheap malific lord plus artillery seems like an excellent edition to a lot of csm lists.

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3 detachments for the extra command points. My renegades/heretics are not official models so I don't want to bring them for a tournament. Just because I don't know them well, I've only played there once.

 

I'd go for a brigade if I had fast attack choices but that's where I'm currently lacking. I really want to bring a scorpius or two but the pair are over 400 points and that's kind of steep for a 1500 point game. Although the 6d3 st 6 2 damage attacks per turn each without LOS is nice.  The pair can kill 5 terminators a turn on average.

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You could always ask the tourney organizer if 3rd party models are allowed- unless it is being held at a GW, at which case I wouldn't bother. Unfortunate that you can't use the new Alpha Legion stratagem and infiltrate your plasma closer.

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