DogWelder Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) All Legions were gifted with one of these mighty vessels by the Emperor, though the Alpha Legion and the Word Bearers are known to have been in the possession of two. Built: 20 Active: 6 Confirmed Destroyed: 3 Likely Destroyed: 2 Unknown/Missing: 9 Dark Angels- Invincible Reason Status: Unknown [iII] Emperor's Children- Pride of the Emperor Status: Crippled/Unknown Boarded by the Ultramarine and Ultramarine Successor Chapters during the Battle of Thessala during the confrontation of Guilliman and Fulgrim. Had its critical systems destroyed by the boarding parties. It is unknown what happened to it after the Ultramarines withdrew. [iV] Iron Warriors- Iron Blood Status: Unknown Participated in the Battle of Phall where it was boarded unsuccessfully by a force of Imperial Fists. Curiously, this was the only one of the Flagships that had no windows; Perturabo considered them to be an unnecessary distraction. [V] White Scars- Swordstorm Status: Destroyed During the Battle of Catallus it fended off the wrath of both the Death Guard and Emperor’s Children fleets and bought enough time for the White Scars to escape to Terra. Was boarded by Mortarion himself but then blown up remotely by Jaghatai Khan. Mortarion escaped the explosion, leaving much of his bodyguard to die. [VI] Space Wolves- Hrafnkel Status: Likely Destroyed Possibly destroyed in the Battle of Yarant where the Space Wolves Legion was decimated by Traitor Legions. [VIII] Night Lords- Nightfall Status: Active Last seen in Ultramar during the failed Night Lords attack on the planet of Sotha after which it fled the system. Currently under the command of Gendor Skraivok. [iX] Blood Angels- Red Tear Status: Crippled/Incapable of Spaceflight Crashed on Signus Prime when its crew was possessed by demons. Its remains were towed to Baal. [X] Iron Hands- Fist of Iron Status: Crippled/Unknown Crippled by the Pride of the Emperor when Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus first came to blows. The Primarch of the Iron Hands would then make the Strike Cruiser Ferrum his flagship. Ultimate fate is not known. [XII] World Eaters- Conqueror Status: Active Had one of the most well trained crew amongst the Legions during the Great Crusade and Heresy. In active service in the Chaos Lord Kossolax's fleet during the 13th Black Crusade [XIII] Ultramarines- Maccrage’s Honour Status: Active In active service as the flagship of Roboute Guilliman in M42. Received extensive upgrades courtesy of Belisarius Cawl that gave it a 10% performance boost across all systems. Also serves as the home base of Cawl and the site of his mobile laboratory. [XIV] Death Guard- Endurance Status: Active Serves as the Flagship of Mortarion in M42. Heavily corrupted by Nurgle and home to a piece of the Plague God’s garden. [XV] Thousand Sons- Photep Status: Active Sent away by Magnus the Red before the Burning of Prospero. Rejoined Magnus and the Thousand Sons at a later date. [XVI] Sons of Horus- Vengeful Spirit Status: Active In active service as the flagship of Abaddon the Despoiler during the 13th Black Crusade [XVII] Word Bearers- Fidelitas Lex Status: Destroyed Destroyed at the Battle of Nuceria during the Horus Heresy when it was swarmed by a fleet of smaller Ultramarine vessels. Managed to destroy 12 of the loyalist vessels before it was overwhelmed. Chronicle of Ashes Status: Captured Captured by the Ultramarines 22nd Chapter near the end of the Horus Heresy. Was rewarded to the 22nd as their own Flagship when they later became the “Nemesis Chapter” during the Second Founding. Renamed the “Lex Talonis”. [XVIII] Salamanders- Flamewrought Status: Likely Destroyed Likely destroyed over Isstvan 5 when Traitor reinforcements arrived. [XIX] Raven Guard- Shadow of the Emperor Status: Destroyed Destroyed over Isstvan 5 when the Traitor reinforcements arrived. [XX] Alpha Legion- Alpha Status: Unknown Beta Status: Unknown Edited July 11, 2017 by Caius Tadius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Nightfall is active. Currently with Skraivok in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Nightfall is active. Currently with Skraivok in charge. Just learned of the "The Painted Count" short story that confirms it. Interesting to see what happened to the character after "Pharos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboosegg Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) isnt typus ship also a gloria? Edited July 11, 2017 by Caboosegg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) Nope, it isn't. The Terminus Est is its own special beast; imitated, but too ancient to copy fully. Not entirely sure if the Iron Blood is a Gloriana as such, as it was constructed above Olympia as per Perturabo's specifications Edited July 11, 2017 by bluntblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Arias Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I'm pretty sure the Red Tear made it off Signus Prime under its own power and made its way to Macragge. Though I haven't read Fear to Tread in a while. Spoilers for the Crimson King below: The Photep makes an appearance in The Crimson King over the Plant of Sorcerers, at the end Magnus says to his Legions that they will go to join the Warmaster. SO I assume that the Photep is at the Siege at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Keep in mind that in one of FW's HH books it's mentioned that the Word Bearers had about 9 Gloriana class ships. Laurie Goulding has also hinted at the whilst all the Primarchs were giften Gloriana class ships to function as their flagships, not all Glorianas fulfilled that function. Meaning there are more out there besides those 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Keep in mind that in one of FW's HH books it's mentioned that the Word Bearers had about 9 Gloriana class ships. Laurie Goulding has also hinted at the whilst all the Primarchs were giften Gloriana class ships to function as their flagships, not all Glorianas fulfilled that function. Meaning there are more out there besides those 20. 9 seems ridiculously excessive 0.0 Which book was that? If its true then it kinda takes away from the "Legendary ship" status these things have if they can pump them out like they do with Battle Barges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Keep in mind that in one of FW's HH books it's mentioned that the Word Bearers had about 9 Gloriana class ships. Laurie Goulding has also hinted at the whilst all the Primarchs were giften Gloriana class ships to function as their flagships, not all Glorianas fulfilled that function. Meaning there are more out there besides those 20. 9 seems ridiculously excessive 0.0 Which book was that? If its true then it kinda takes away from the "Legendary ship" status these things have if they can pump them out like they do with Battle Barges. It's a huge galaxy. Even if there were 50 Glorianas then that's still a tiny amount of vessels. ---- Under the other category you can add the Amphion, which was one of the most powerful battleships of Battlefleet Solar. It led the Battlefleet Solar flotilla during the Xana Incursion in 009.M31, forcing the Xanite defence fleet and void-war servitors to scramble to meet it. It proved vital in drawing the Xanite fleets away from the planet, allowing the Blackshield Astartes forces under Endryd Haar to wreak havoc through the Xana system. It was later destroyed at the Battle of Triton. Source: HH6 Retribution. blackoption, 1ncarnadine and Ryltar Thamior 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Interesting that nothing is known of the Imperial Fist VII ship? Did they shrug and put it in dry at the Phalanx or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 There is no fluff that confirms that numbers of Gloriana Class vessels made, nor that they were uniquely assigned to Primarchs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Interesting that nothing is known of the Imperial Fist VII ship? Did they shrug and put it in dry at the Phalanx or something? As far as I am aware, Phalanx is far larger than most Glorianas. Pretty sure there was a reference to it being the size of a small moon somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Was the tribune a Gloriana??? Otherwise though not stated its a good chance one of the Imperial Fist's ones (if they had more than one) was destroyed as 1/3 of the imperial fist retribution fleets was destroyed with the rest stranded at Phall. Fleet master Yonnad was killed in the storms so it is possible he could of been on one as you would expect a fleet master to have his flagship as one of the most powerful ships of the fleet Edited July 12, 2017 by Plaguecaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Was the tribune a Gloriana??? Otherwise though not stated its a good chance one of the Imperial Fist's ones (if they had more than one) was destroyed as 1/3 of the imperial fist retribution fleets was destroyed with the rest stranded at Phall. Fleet master Yonnad was killed in the storms so it is possible he could of been on one as you would expect a fleet master to have his flagship as one of the most powerful ships of the fleet The Tribune wasn't a Gloriana. The rest is a fair shout, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Kravin Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I don't think we know how rigid the definition of a Gloriana is. For practical real world game purposes sources like Battlefleet Gothic give us well defined ship classes but in universe there's a lot of scope for customisation and variation. The Iron Blood was mentioned above - it could have been an honorary Gloriana - i.e. Perturabo over saw construction of a vessel to his specifications but it didn't have a recognised class so as it was a Primarch's flag ship the imperial bureaucracy would record it as a Gloriana. I'm not aware of a source specifying the class of the Alpha and Beta, simply that they were battleships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I'm not aware of a source specifying the class of the Alpha and Beta, simply that they were battleships. The short-story The Wolf King features the Alpha heavily. I'm not sure if it is specified if it is a Gloriana, however. -- Interesting that we haven't actually seen the lead ship of the Gloriana class yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Isn't the Emperor's flag ship also a Gloriana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supe robot gangster #1 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Isn't the Emperor's flag ship also a Gloriana? I actually recall reading somewhere the emperors flagship was battle barge size? It may have been old fluff though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Isn't the Emperor's flag ship also a Gloriana? I actually recall reading somewhere the emperors flagship was battle barge size? It may have been old fluff though. In one of the short stories, the CPT Hajeur and the rest of the mornival are debating a battle on the bridge of the Vengeful Spirit. The Emperor's flagship makes an appearance in that story. I always had the impression that it was also Gloriana class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I always figured it was one above. Presumably we'll see it destroyed over Terra soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Keep in mind that in one of FW's HH books it's mentioned that the Word Bearers had about 9 Gloriana class ships. Laurie Goulding has also hinted at the whilst all the Primarchs were giften Gloriana class ships to function as their flagships, not all Glorianas fulfilled that function. Meaning there are more out there besides those 20. 9 seems ridiculously excessive 0.0 Which book was that? If its true then it kinda takes away from the "Legendary ship" status these things have if they can pump them out like they do with Battle Barges. Horus Heresy 5 Tempest, page 18: "The Word Bearers fleet numbered over a hundred capitol class ships, including nine Gloriana class battleships, several of which had once borne the colours of other Legions" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Given the Word Bearers' staggering supply of cultists and followers, they might well have been able to crew Glorianas seized at Isstvan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogWelder Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Keep in mind that in one of FW's HH books it's mentioned that the Word Bearers had about 9 Gloriana class ships. Laurie Goulding has also hinted at the whilst all the Primarchs were giften Gloriana class ships to function as their flagships, not all Glorianas fulfilled that function. Meaning there are more out there besides those 20. 9 seems ridiculously excessive 0.0 Which book was that? If its true then it kinda takes away from the "Legendary ship" status these things have if they can pump them out like they do with Battle Barges. Horus Heresy 5 Tempest, page 18: "The Word Bearers fleet numbered over a hundred capitol class ships, including nine Gloriana class battleships, several of which had once borne the colours of other Legions" ....that is just...wow. So what happened to all those ships? They don't appear in the Word Bearer's Omnibus so were they captured/destroyed like the two named ones they had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Keep in mind that in one of FW's HH books it's mentioned that the Word Bearers had about 9 Gloriana class ships. Laurie Goulding has also hinted at the whilst all the Primarchs were giften Gloriana class ships to function as their flagships, not all Glorianas fulfilled that function. Meaning there are more out there besides those 20. 9 seems ridiculously excessive 0.0 Which book was that? If its true then it kinda takes away from the "Legendary ship" status these things have if they can pump them out like they do with Battle Barges. Horus Heresy 5 Tempest, page 18: "The Word Bearers fleet numbered over a hundred capitol class ships, including nine Gloriana class battleships, several of which had once borne the colours of other Legions" ....that is just...wow. So what happened to all those ships? They don't appear in the Word Bearer's Omnibus so were they captured/destroyed like the two named ones they had? either with the black legion or in the warp i would say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Keep in mind that in one of FW's HH books it's mentioned that the Word Bearers had about 9 Gloriana class ships. Laurie Goulding has also hinted at the whilst all the Primarchs were giften Gloriana class ships to function as their flagships, not all Glorianas fulfilled that function. Meaning there are more out there besides those 20. 9 seems ridiculously excessive 0.0 Which book was that? If its true then it kinda takes away from the "Legendary ship" status these things have if they can pump them out like they do with Battle Barges. Horus Heresy 5 Tempest, page 18: "The Word Bearers fleet numbered over a hundred capitol class ships, including nine Gloriana class battleships, several of which had once borne the colours of other Legions" ....that is just...wow. So what happened to all those ships? They don't appear in the Word Bearer's Omnibus so were they captured/destroyed like the two named ones they had? The Gloriana class didn't exist when the Word Bearers Omnibus was written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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