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Unit of the Week: Dreadnoughts

Unit of the Week 8th 8th Edition Space Marines

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I'm finding I don't like flamers much, even str. 5 ones.  I have a H. flamer on my Ironclad cause I find it more useful than a melta-gun.

 

Also, I've been playing more w/ Venerable Autocannon, and Venerable 2xLas/ML, since I don't have to proxy them.   They have been working out very well.

 

I'm thinking now that I may not be getting a Redemptor.  It's cost makes it hard to fit in a list, plus it doesn't seem any better than those two ven. dread load-outs.

 

Dakkademptor™ ain't cheap.

 

Though now this begs the question @ 2k do I want 2 Ven. 2xLas/ML with my Contemptor w/ Kheres, Ven Rifleman, and Ironclad?

Or do I want 1 Ven. 2xLas/ML, *2xContemptor w/ Kheres*, Ven. Rifleman, and Ironclad?

 

Choices.


Edited by Timur, 19 August 2017 - 02:17 AM.


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Do we have any sort of consensus opinion on the best load out for Leviathans?

 

I'm heading over to Warhammer World tomorrow, and seriously considering picking one up to go with my Redemptor.



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Leviathans seem to be best loaded with 2 Grav bombardments. I'll be doing 1 Grav 1 storm cannon when I eventually build my all naught army

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Kind of a waste of 4 attacks that swing at 2+ with nice damage and AP profiles if you ask me. But then again I'm not trying to min/max, and I guess according to you two I took the worst loadout possible with the Cyclonic Melta Lance, even though I instagibbed a Land Raider yesterday. But that's none of my business I guess... msn-wink.gif



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Played against a Redemptor with the fragstorm launcher thingies the other night. It seemed pretty decent but I think that the storm bolters are probably better value for points. Weirdly it had a flamer as well; it seemed like a poor choice of secondary armament when you have the option of MOAR DAKKA in the form of the gatling cannon. It never got close enough to anything to flame anything!

 

While I agree with the Stormbolter bang for the buck idea, I actually am dropping the arm mounted Gatling Cannon for a heavy flamer. Moving, shooting, damaged, means with the Gatling you're hitting on 5's... that sucks. Heavy Flamer moving when damaged gets me those shots autohitting. I find the Redemptors draw immense firepower, and I rarely go more than one turn undamaged. The heavy flamer helps mitigate that damage a lot.



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Kind of a waste of 4 attacks that swing at 2+ with nice damage and AP profiles if you ask me. But then again I'm not trying to min/max, and I guess according to you two I took the worst loadout possible with the Cyclonic Melta Lance, even though I instagibbed a Land Raider yesterday. But that's none of my business I guess... msn-wink.gif

 

Well, as usual, the number one rule (should be) play your dudes. However, I would like to point out that you probably will not have a good time if you base your loadout decisions off single events like that ;)



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How is the Chaplain Dreadnought? I am looking into an all dread list and can't decide how I want to do it. The only ways I can find right now are Blood Angels Librarian Dreadnought, Bjorn, or Chaplain Dreadnought all of which are over 200 pts.

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At first the Chaplain Dread looked very appealing, until I noticed the buff for friendlies only works for units in the same combat, not as a general aura for all units in range.  Although I think the rule also works on the Dread itself.  Not entirely sure.

 

That aside, it's a strong melee bot that can shrug off wounds on a 6, has a 5+ invulnerable, and can take an Inferno Cannon.  So it's a lot like an Ironclad being a largely melee purposed Dread with high survivability, but it doesn't have the Ironclad's 8 Toughness and comes with a noticeably larger price tag.

 

Not the auto-buy I thought it was at first glance, but still strong.  The first use that comes to mind is dropping out of a Raven with some hammer marines to smash the ever loving snot out of something very, very tough with a lot of wounds.

 

I'm not familiar with Bjorn or the BA dread, so I can't tell you which way to go on that.  I'd say it largely depends on what army rules you want (SW, BA, or C:SM).  I hadn't realized until now though that the Chaplain is an HQ rather than an Elite.  Interesting.


Edited by Firepower, 21 August 2017 - 07:08 PM.

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I think that is the main reason for their costs to be where they are, they cannon be targetted while other units are closer. As long as the Warlord trait isn't the one with +1 wound, just take ghe brb version instead.





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