dakkamasta Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I'm really tempted at cramming a bunch of Malefic Lords in a Valkyrie with a small marauder squad to accompany them, to run alongside my Chaos Space Marines. 4-5 malefic lord plus a plasma marauder squad is quite scary on paper. The valk can move up to 20", followed by the 3+6" disembark+move (remaining 9" away of course) and can then unload a bombardment of smites. That's a 47" threat range of multiple smites in 1 turn. The marauders double up as a small screen for the lords whilst also being a cheap special weapon platform (ie. plasma) which also benefits from the valkyrie's mobility. Basically a poor mans Tempestus Scion squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) (remaining 9" away of course) I don't understand this part. Why 9" away? Did they amend the rules for disembarking from a Valkyrie to require that, or is it to stay a safe distance or something? *edit* Ah, I see. For grav-chute insertion. Well, can still just hover 20" and not follow that restriction. Edited October 27, 2017 by Juggernut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakkamasta Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Yea I worded that poorly as you must set up over 9" away but can still move afterwards. Basically it's a smite bomb that can reach out and touch nearly anything on the table that isn't wrapped with several other units due to smite requiring the closest unit to be the target. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The place I play at deals with 'that guy' by mandating 1 - 3 Detachments, 0 - 1 of which can be a Supreme Command Detachment. Still allows for ten Malefic Lords, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Well Malefic lords got a whole lot more expensive 80pts each looks Ike they will be a lot harder to spam now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Smite spam shouldn't exist, but now Primaris Psykers are just stupid. Malefic Lords weren't that great, in that their only real draw was smite. Primaris can cast all sorts of better stuff, but oh well. Edited November 22, 2017 by Azekai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Smite spam shouldn't exist, but now Primaris Psykers are just stupid. Malefic Lords weren't that great, in that their only real draw was smite. Primaris can cast all sorts of better stuff, but oh well. Who says Primaris Psykers are not getting nerfed either, CA seems to be targeting some of the major units players tend to over spam, they couldn't mention every unit getting price increases so I'd say it's quite likely the Primaris Psykers get a huge price increase as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrim Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Edit: Disregard, I see this is a Chapter Approved thing. 80pts is absurdly overpriced though. Interesting that GW would delve over into FW rules. Is there any hope they might fix the dumpster bin fire that is the R&H Index list? Edited November 22, 2017 by Akrim Backslide 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backslide Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 And now they are 80 points lol 55 seemed ok to me but meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stross Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Well, I think I can understand their logic a bit. Chaos lord cost 72. Here we have psyker, so additional 8 points for that. But... both have 4++ invul. Malefic don't have his own saves aside from invul. He can't fight until he get perils, so we give our points into thing that can damage him and this is not a fact, that we will be able to punch something that will be worth it. I don't even speak about big amount of weapon, that Chaos lord can bring withing. And his rerolls of 1... So, yeah, overpriced. It will be even more shameful if their culitists is going to cost 5, not four. And their cheap infantry still cost 4, when just regular guardsmen have 4+ BS and orders, while renegades have 5+ BS and have only special and heavy weapons or mutations. Great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backslide Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Well if they are addressing malific lords dare say they may look at the rest of the list a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stross Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Well if they are addressing malific lords dare say they may look at the rest of the list a little It is a MUST since Renegade army was the weakest even before Codexes popped up. Now at least we have Grinding Advance with Leman Russ (last FAQ approved we can use it along side with 3D6 shots of Baneblade and moving with penalty for heavy). Our infantry is too expensive with our abilities, psy powers and other stuff. But Enforcers now are better than Comissars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresyBeliever Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Where are you getting the 80 points each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Where are you getting the 80 points each? https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/11/22/get-ready-for-chapter-approved-matched-play-updates-nov-22gw-homepage-post-3/ Nemerax 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1SB Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Smite spam shouldn't exist, but now Primaris Psykers are just stupid. Malefic Lords weren't that great, in that their only real draw was smite. Primaris can cast all sorts of better stuff, but oh well. Who says Primaris Psykers are not getting nerfed either, CA seems to be targeting some of the major units players tend to over spam, they couldn't mention every unit getting price increases so I'd say it's quite likely the Primaris Psykers get a huge price increase as well Both good points. Primaris Psykers DID get a price increase...it went up only about 10 points though. Still very affordable. If you wanted to spam Smite, instead of using Malefic Lords, now you do so with Primaris Psykers. I don't yet see anything that prohibits Smite spam, like making it a once-per-turn power or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 ^^^ Hey I'm not happy about it either as it's quite stupid they overcosted Malefic lords but not Primaris Psykers who basically are the same though it seems GW hates FW units in general as alot of their stuff got massively overcosted :cuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stross Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 GW hates chaos for that matter. Look at the Imperium stuff. Even Selestine got "rebalance". The same cost, if you take girls with you. Awesome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamika Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Who cares they are now 80 points! Behold my warlord! Paint coming soon :) Khornestar, Tallarn Commander, Subtle Discord and 9 others 12 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Where is the head from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamika Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Goliath kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Oh, right! Suddenly there are a LOT more bits to convert with! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 And the hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 DV cultist champ with the hood/axe, I believe. Lucerne 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akrim Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Who cares they are now 80 points! Behold my warlord! Paint coming soon So cool Tamika! Paint that bugger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stross Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Damn... now I want my third useless malefic lord X) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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