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Codex: Chaos Space Marines


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Like the Iron Warriors rules, not too flashy but workable. Like Iron itself. 

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So according to the last bit, cultists will remain to have the <legion> keyword.. If they also get obsec we will continue to shelve our normal CSM squads. 

 

EDIT: and seeing as they've showcased a Tzeentch power in an undivided legion, we should be safe to assume undivideds can use marks and thus icons! Could be fun to combine that with the rumoured legion traits -> NL raptors of Nurgle...


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So according to the last bit, cultists will remain to have the <legion> keyword.. If they also get obsec we will continue to shelve our normal CSM squads. 

 

Speak for yourself; the black legion and word bearer traits can most definitely make some legit use of chaos marines. and LOTS of them! 



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The Warhammer 40k facebook page just threw up an IW strategem - Iron Within, Iron Without. 1CP, and a targeted IW model can ignore a wound on a 6+. The unit can then roll for this for the rest of the phase as well. Pretty neat.


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The most important thing I got from that article is that the Undivided Legions can take Marks, otherwise including that Tzeentch-only power makes no sense.  My interest is piqued even further!


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So according to the last bit, cultists will remain to have the <legion> keyword.. If they also get obsec we will continue to shelve our normal CSM squads. 

 

Speak for yourself; the black legion and word bearer traits can most definitely make some legit use of chaos marines. and LOTS of them! 

 

Yeah as EC I sure won't have to rely on Cultists even if I wouldn't have Noise Marines as troop choice. ^^


The Warhammer 40k facebook page just threw up an IW strategem - Iron Within, Iron Without. 1CP, and a targeted IW model can ignore a wound on a 6+. The unit can then roll for this for the rest of the phase as well. Pretty neat.

A targeted model? Not a whole unit? And only one wound? Meh...I don't think I'd ever spend a CP for that like ever.


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Nice to see that IW got to keep their Exoskeleton.

Here's to hoping that WE get's to keep the Berserkers Glavie. :)



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Sorry, I meant it affects one model, but then the unit keeps the 6+ save against wounds until end of phase.


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Okay I found it. Sounds MUCH better worded that way. Works for the whole unit and for every wound it'd lose after that one for that phase.

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So yeah, I'm really not rude it's basically just cultural differences that act against me here. Again, I apologize.

 

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That psychic power....hello 3++ Magnus.

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Okay I found it. Sounds MUCH better worded that way. Works for the whole unit and for every wound it'd lose after that one for that phase.
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...that is so much weaker than emps children it's embarrassing.
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You can Mark vehicles too, don't forget.  Grant a 5++ to a Land Raider, for example.


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Okay I found it. Sounds MUCH better worded that way. Works for the whole unit and for every wound it'd lose after that one for that phase.
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...that is so much weaker than emps children it's embarrassing.

 

We don't know the EC Stratagem yet. We only know a generic Chaos Space Marine Stratagem that applies to Slaanesh units. So take a Slaanesh Iron Warrior unit and you can let them shoot twice as well...and give them a 5+ FnP on top of your 6+ FnP when using a Slaanesh Sorcerer.


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So yeah, I'm really not rude it's basically just cultural differences that act against me here. Again, I apologize.

 

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I hope this doesn't mean a return to the UnKillable Units of 6th/7th with all these save buffs we are seeing. And FNP stacking. Or maybe it won't be too bad on the actual table top.
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It looks like they will be sticking with what was in the Chaos Index and making all units be dedicated to a specific god without the option for Choas Undivided.



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I hope this doesn't mean a return to the UnKillable Units of 6th/7th with all these save buffs we are seeing. And FNP stacking. Or maybe it won't be too bad on the actual table top.

Keep in mind that we also have multi-damage weapons now and FnP abilities prevent damage, not wounds so it's not as strong on infantry against multi-damage weapons as it may sound. ;)


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So yeah, I'm really not rude it's basically just cultural differences that act against me here. Again, I apologize.

 

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Okay I found it. Sounds MUCH better worded that way. Works for the whole unit and for every wound it'd lose after that one for that phase.
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...that is so much weaker than emps children it's embarrassing.

Thankfully, it is. The Slaanesh stratagem that was shown yesterday was worth 2CPs, whereas this one is worth 1... Had it been as good, why'd anyone ever bother spending 2CPs on the other one?
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Plus you can use this on a heretic Astartes vehicle as well...daemon engines are going to be ticking over nicely in IW lists

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Ok guys, here is the french baguette-croissant with a better screen, i could decipher a little more (i let the title in French) :

 

Legion specific stratagem : 

World Eater : Mépris pour la sorcellerie
Can cancel a psychic spell at 26 » d’un World Eater on a 4+

Emperor's Children :Excès de violence 
Activate on a Emperor’s Children in combat phase : each time a model of this squad kills a ennemy model he can immediatly make another attack with the same weapon on the same ennemy unit

Night Lord : Drape de Nuit
Activate when a Night lord unit get shot : ennemy must add -1 to hit with ranged weapon for this phase.

 

Black Legion : Que brule la galaxie
Use it at the begining of a shooting or combat phase on a squad. This squad can reroll all 1 to hit for this phase. There is something more if the squad is a Chaos Space marine squad but can't read it (something reroll all miss rolls or also the 1 roll to wound.

Word Bearer : Pacte Noir
Use it when you are about to summon a daemon with a World Bearer character. You can reroll any roll for your summoning (they re is something with double and triple i cannot read

Alpha Legion : Agents avancé :
Use when deploying your army. A unit can be set in ambush and appear at the start of the first turn of alpha legion anywhere on the table at X" (cant read) of ennemy unit.

 

Dark Hereticus spell :

 

Maléfice fatal :

CW x : choose a unit at 12". Until the (or your ?) next psychic phase this unit dont have any invulnerable save.

 

Don du chaos :
Choose a unit at 6" et roll 1D6. If the result is below target's thougness she suffer 1D3+3 mortal wound. If a character is killed by this spell he's turn into a chaos spawn.

 

XXXX :
Something about a Force bonus i think.


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You can Mark vehicles too, don't forget.  Grant a 5++ to a Land Raider, for example.

pff. you have dreads and knights that are god dedicted. Can you imagine a high inv leviathan or demonic knight ?


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You can Mark vehicles too, don't forget.  Grant a 5++ to a Land Raider, for example.

pff. you have dreads and knights that are god dedicted. Can you imagine a high inv leviathan or demonic knight ?

Good point, that is very cool.

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It looks like they will be sticking with what was in the Chaos Index and making all units be dedicated to a specific god without the option for Choas Undivided.

 

That's not what the index says at all.  Anything can be marked, or you can be undivided (ie, have no mark).  There's even an icon exclusively for non-marked units.



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Hopefully we'll get an idea of what sort of benefit you'd get for marking your units Khorne in lieu of specialized psychic powers when they release the World Eaters preview...


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Thanks for deciphering that, DreamIsCollapsing. :)

Seems that AL didn't just get the same chapter tactics as RG, but the same stratagem as well...

That's quite lazy and unimaginative. 

That WE got the same stratagem as BT doesn't surprise me though, it's fluffy and fills a role in an army that's prevented from fielding psykers.

I think the "attack one extra time"-stratagem is still in the codex, but not restricted to WE.
It's in the SM-codex after all, wouldn't be at all surprised if it's in the CSM-codex as well.


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