Deekthegreat Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) Hey guys just want to see what you think of this list. So I know white scars are probably far superior for this kind of list but since I started warhammer in 6th ed always had a place in my heart for the the not red angels. So list is as follows Praetor- jetbike, thunderhammer, iron halo, master crafted, melta bomb ( ravening protocols rite of war) Centurion- chaplain, artificer armor, melta bomb, jetbike Centurion- librarian master lvl 2, force axe, jetbike Troops Jetbike squad x5 Jetbike squad x 5 Jetbike squad x5 Fast attack Javelin squadron x3 w/ missiles and multi melta Javelin squadron x3 w/missiles and multi melta Javelin squadron x3 w/lascannons and multi melta Heavy support Sky hunter squadron x3 multi meltas Sky hunter squadron x3 multi meltas Sky hunter squadron x3 multi meltas I didn't put points there and my math could very well be wrong but it should be 2495. In larger games I take appthacries and throw them in every bike squad and then have a small wanna be Death Star with the hqs. Any feed back would be awesome thanks guys Edited August 25, 2017 by Deekthegreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I'm not going to discuss the merits of this list, just to say this looks like a 40k twink list and not a 30k army at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthegreat Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 How does it not look like a 30k army because it doesn't have vet squads or Spartans or lightning strike fighters? Or am I missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthegreat Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 It's not built to be competitive I know it will struggle against armies like Militia and solar aux and most likely will struggle against other armies that use Spartans a lot as well. Dark angels don't have the strongest rule set and seeing as I'm leaving it to basic gear not adding in melta bombs on everything because they're melta bombs why would you not have them on everything suddenly it looks like a 40k list? librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I'm not going to discuss the merits of this list, just to say this looks like a 40k twink list and not a 30k army at all. Perhaps you should have simply not commented at all? Constructive criticism is welcome - passive aggression is not. For the OP - as you can probably now tell, "Ravenwing Protocol" is a rather restrictive Rite of War that lends itself to appearing spammy (even when that is not the intention). Indeed, the construction of your list unfortunately supports this viewpoint, ie. 3 HQs, 3x5 Sky Hunters, 3x3 Javelins, 3x3 Sky Slayers. This kinda suggests a 40k approach. I'm not suggesting this is at all your fault - just that "appearances can be deceiving". ;) It looks like you're well short of 2500 points - have you got a lot more upgrades than you have listed? That would help a lot for list critique. :) Carnivore, Lanky27 and K3nn3rs 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthegreat Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 Hmmm well being limited to the use of a phone I might have just forgotten something. And I figured it looked to much like a 7th ed 40k dark angels list and I can see that now but I was really going for the rule of these models are what I really like and since they don't fit salamanders very well let's take the lesser of the 2 jetbike armies and go dark angels. Having not ever played jetbikes and also not having played a game in well over a year is there anything wrong with what's in the list I know it's not exactly using every dark angels has to offer but I can always mix it up a little bit and use attack bikes as my fast attack choices. Another 15 multi meltas wouldn't hurt anyone especially when I go up against my buddies solar aux army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 List is completely legal as it is, but it's only around 2200 points. Biggest suggestion I have is putting molecular acid shells on all the Jetbikes' heavy bolters - having AP D6 is brilliant! You also have the option of giving your Characters rad grenades for only 5 points. Helpful for the times you want to be in combat. Finally, you can also take Flyers. 40k Ravenwing definitely utilise them, so why not take a Xiphon, Primaris-Lightning, Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor? Will give your list a lot more depth. I've seen someone use a Nephalim Jetfighter as a 30k flyer before - looked good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthegreat Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 See as of now I'm torn between just updating my one army to make it truly massive in size of starting a new one. I definetly need to get more heavy support and support squads for one army or I can buy the 40 jetbikes and the 9 javelins I'm so torn right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthegreat Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hey guys so list has changed a bit In theory. Hq- praetor jetbike, terranic greatsword, acid rounds, rad grenades Troops- outriders with plasma x3 T- outrider with plasma x3 T- sky hunter squadron x5 (next 3 choices will be the same) acid rounds and melta bombs FA- javelins x3 missiles FA- javelins x3 missiles FA- javelins x2 missiles Heavy support- jetbikes x3 multi meltas Heavy support- jetbikes x3 multi meltas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCore67 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) I'd get rid of the sky slayer squadrons, one of the javelin squadrons, and plasma bikes. Bring cheap bike squads so you have plenty of scoring which is something kind of hard to come by in ravenwing protocols. With the points from that I suggest trying to fit in a fire raptor, paragon blade for the praetor, and any other points use to give your outriders melta bombs. Edited January 22, 2018 by ShadowCore67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthegreat Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 Why get rid of the sky slayers? I mean outside of melta bombs aren’t those the next best source of anti tank because of multi meltas? My meta doesn’t have a whole bunch of AV14 or ceramite running around yet. And as much as I love fire raptors I think those would get more hatred than a fully kitted out spartan which is sad but the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCore67 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I'm just personally not a fan of sky hunters. If you wanna take them then go for it. My problem is that if you jink, which you very well might have to with them, they basically become useless with only 3 snapshots. Its also not like you're necessarily lacking in anti armor from other sources. Most of your squads will have melta bombs and the javelins have krak missiles. The fire raptor is good at killing vehicles if you give it the autocannons and hell strike missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthegreat Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 So had 3 games so far first two were absolutely horrible. Lost both games to night lords but my 3rd game was vs iron warriors and I had essentially almost had him tabled by turn 4. List was similar to what I had posted as the theoretical change. I had 4 jetbike squads two 3 man units and two 4 man units and the 2 squads of heavy support bike squads and the outriders managed to kill proturbo in 2 shooting phases then an imperial knight walked over and kicked my face in but his army was basically gone before that happened so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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