Crazy ideas for our codex (whishlistin´& conspiracies)

[Karhedron]

Or a very skilled and capable warrior who was already towards the top of his peers from the Horus Heresy era ... *cough* Azkaellon *cough* ..... who maybe now has even more powers and prowess, such as his ancient body becomes a vessel of a fragment of our primarch's power at times of great need?

Azkaellon isn't the Sanguinor. Check out "Herald of Sanguinius" for the Sanguinor's origins.

[Lord_Caerolion]

Yep, that's the original Sanguinor. Given that the original is almost certainly dead, and we haven't been told who or what the current incarnation is under the mask, it could be anyone or anything. Edited September 18, 2017 by Lord_Caerolion

[Lord_Caerolion]

Double post. Edited September 18, 2017 by Lord_Caerolion

[Thrown Pommel]

My "Perfect World" Wishlist

 

Chapter Tactic:

+1 to wound in combat. Jump Pack units may charge after advancing.

 

Stratagems:

Descent of Angels: Use when a Jump Pack unit enters via deep strike. This unit may charge on 3D6. (1CP)

Overcharged Engines: Pick a vehicle in the shooting phase. It can fire after advancing w/o penalty. (1CP)

Airborne Assault: you may place one/two more unit(s) in reserves w/o it counting towards the "only half" rule in matched play (1/3CP)

Red Thirst: A unit that has consolidated into another unit during the fight phase (ex: after wiping a unit) may immediately fight again (2CP)

 

-Most of the generic Space Marine Stratagems

 

Points Costs and other Misc. Items:

Bring costs in line with Space Marine Codex

Death Company: Down in points or 5+ FNP save, or both!

Sanguinary Guard: cheaper angelus bolter

Inferno Pistol: 8-10 points

Hand Flamer: 4 points

Dante: +2 CP if warlord

Unique Dreadnoughts: significant points decrease

Sanguinor with a Primarch Statline, LOW force org slot, and Girlyman sized model! (its not Sanguinius i swear!)

 

If we get even half of these things I'd be so happy!

[durdle-durdle]

I really hope Baal predators get move+shoot without penalty or some way to come in from weird angles like outflank or something. As is they're super overcosted for +1 wound and roll 2d6 pick the highest when advancing.

[Bremon]

I really want Baal Predators to both advance and cook things. Otherwise overcharged engines should just be represented by the tank having a higher base movement value. OC engines as a stratagem more vehicles can use isn't a bad idea either though.

[Are Verlo]

Perhaps a tribute to the lucifer armoured strike force? A stratagem that lets 1 -3 Baals and 1 Land raider take a move after setting up, after rolling for who starts (We play with chapter approved +1 if you finish first) but before rolling to sieze the initative?

[ixzion]

I think a return of rhino rush would be really cool. The rule would probably be along the lines of allowing BA to disembark from a transport after it has moved instead of at the start of the movement. Considering how GW has been making all kind of references to older rules and stuff lately I think this might be even plausible

[Karhedron]

Please no!

 

The Rhino rush was an aberration best consigned to the dustbin of history. It took a unit intended for tactical deployments and troop protection and turned into nothing more than an assault springboard.

 

Blood Angels should be soaring through the skies like the Primarch, not cowering in metal boxes.

[Bremon]

I'm not saying I want to see 3rd edition rhino rush return, but I would suggest that jump packs are limited and every battle brother deserves to get up close and personal if their sergeant will allow it lol.

[Quixus]

Overcharged engines and better jump pack control should not be stratagems. There is nothing in the fluff that the lucifer engines have a fuel issue, that would explain only being allowed to go faster for a limited time. Additionally there is no indication that the amount of speed boosts is dependent on your army composition. A baal predator in a battalion detachment can move faster than a baal predator in a patrol detachment???

[Blindhamster]

Actually, overcharged engines used to have a chance to break and immobilize a vehicle if they were used. So would typically not constantly be used.

[SM1981]

My "Perfect World" Wishlist

 

Chapter Tactic:

+1 to wound in combat. Jump Pack units may charge after advancing.

 

Stratagems:

Descent of Angels: Use when a Jump Pack unit enters via deep strike. This unit may charge on 3D6. (1CP)

Overcharged Engines: Pick a vehicle in the shooting phase. It can fire after advancing w/o penalty. (1CP)

Airborne Assault: you may place one/two more unit(s) in reserves w/o it counting towards the "only half" rule in matched play (1/3CP)

Red Thirst: A unit that has consolidated into another unit during the fight phase (ex: after wiping a unit) may immediately fight again (2CP)

 

-Most of the generic Space Marine Stratagems

 

Points Costs and other Misc. Items:

Bring costs in line with Space Marine Codex

Death Company: Down in points or 5+ FNP save, or both!

Sanguinary Guard: cheaper angelus bolter

Inferno Pistol: 8-10 points

Hand Flamer: 4 points

Dante: +2 CP if warlord

Unique Dreadnoughts: significant points decrease

Sanguinor with a Primarch Statline, LOW force org slot, and Girlyman sized model! (its not Sanguinius i swear!)

 

If we get even half of these things I'd be so happy!

2 wounds on DC

5+ FNP

And death blow type ability

Would make DC worth their points.

 

Like all the above though.

[Quixus]

Actually, overcharged engines used to have a chance to break and immobilize a vehicle if they were used. So would typically not constantly be used.

That would be a mechanic I could get behind, but it still makes no sense that other units in the army would determine the chance of breaking down (except maybe the number of techmarines).

[ixzion]

Please no!

 

The Rhino rush was an aberration best consigned to the dustbin of history. It took a unit intended for tactical deployments and troop protection and turned into nothing more than an assault springboard.

 

Blood Angels should be soaring through the skies like the Primarch, not cowering in metal boxes.

 

To be fair I didn't play Blood Angels back in those days and didn't face a Blood Angels force then either. It was that bad, huh?

 

But I have to agree, if this mechanic was introduced it would remove the need of jump packs for units. That doesn't sound very much Blood Angely to me.

[Charlo]

I think we might see a boost to infantry that can fly (so Jump packs) that means advance + charge across the board to help with speed.

 

Tanks will probably get a bonus to advancing too with the boost of still being able to fire heavies etc

 

Probably +1S on the charge too for lulz.

[Lord_Caerolion]

 

 

Actually, overcharged engines used to have a chance to break and immobilize a vehicle if they were used. So would typically not constantly be used.

That would be a mechanic I could get behind, but it still makes no sense that other units in the army would determine the chance of breaking down (except maybe the number of techmarines).

Well, it can already determine how many times you can turn an auspex on, and also whether Salamanders can be good with fire, or White Scars be better with bikes, etc. it's a clear pattern now that they don't want the army-wide rules to focus on specific units, but rather keep unit-specific stuff as obtainable through Stratagems.

[Jolemai]

Do we think we'll get the Primaris Apothecary, a Primaris Sanguinary Priest, or neither?

[Charlo]

Do we think we'll get the Primaris Apothecary, a Primaris Sanguinary Priest, or neither?

 

I think, like we did in the index with normal apothecary's (Noviate), we'll get "Primaris Sanguinary Priest" and it will tell us to use the options and model for the Primaris model.

 

OR maybe the reason we aren't in this years batch of 'dexes is because we're getting new models.

 

Who knows!

[Karhedron]

So far we don't really know what GW's plans for models to accompany the new codices are. The SM range was left alone but shiny new Primaris models were added. Deathguard got a glut of new models but since it was basically a new army, that is not surprising. AdMech seem to have just got a codex with no models (apart from an individual release for Cawl). Considering their range is very new, this is not surprising.

 

Guard, Eldar and Nids are all coming out in quick succession which suggests few or no new models. Off the top of my head, I bet the plastic Eldrad will be released as an individual model but not much else. I really find it very hard to guess whether BAs, DAs or SWs will get new models at all.

[Spagunk]

Since this is a thread for wishlisting and various dream like demands, what pose would you think a new Mephy should have if they redid the model?

I personally want a very dynamic one. The Khârn pose is pretty dynamic so maybe something similar? Something with action!
 

[Panzer]

Mephiston with his sword drawn, psychic fire activated and running/about to leap would be great imo.

[Spagunk]

Mephiston with his sword drawn, psychic fire activated and running/about to leap would be great imo.

Maybe something like this?

 

[Panzer]

Nah way too static. Was more thinking about something like this actually:

 http://pro.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/goatboy.cypher.01.jpg

[Karhedron]

Maybe something like this?

 

Oh yeah!

 

The existing model was very nice for its time, one of Jes Goodwin's classics but it is over 20 yars old now.

Edited September 26, 2017 by Karhedronuk