Mellow Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 The ebook is available today. Please discuss with spoilers as the special edition people won't be pleased! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morovir Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Very good so far. Looks nicely into the politics of the HLOT. "There's a blind and mutilated sorcerer down in the gaols calling himself Iskandar Khayon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just read it. A few nods to other author's work. Enjoyable read overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just read it. A few nods to other author's work. Enjoyable read overall. Valdor mentioned at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just read it. A few nods to other author's work. Enjoyable read overall. Valdor mentioned at all? As an significant past figure, along with "Diocletian Exemplar". The custodes POV character is a scholar. He's in a particularly tragic role as unlike most of the imperium, he knows enough to know how much knowledge they've lost. He inscribes his names on the inside of his armour but is quietly disturbed about the possibility/probability that he isn't doing it right or for the right reasons. This is very good so far. Definitely taking and working through a lot of other authors' works. There's a reasonable digression on Terrans' cultural distrust of space marines, originally from William King's Wolfblade, but Wraight's high lord POV character qualifies it by noting that the common citizenry holds them as saints and demigods, it's largely the ruling class distrust the astartes. The silent sister POV character has a great voice. Frank and embittered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Sandlemad has it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I'm very tempted regarding the LE. 55 € is still rough but Chris did never disappoint until now. Damn it. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I'm very tempted regarding the LE. 55 € is still rough but Chris did never disappoint until now. Damn it. ^^ I've ordered it, alongside McNeill's Mechanicum in hardback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Well, as it seems I can't order it due to me not having a credit card. **** happens. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Finishing relisten to Fulgrim today I hope to some hobby so I can start listening to this new gem :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 I've finished it. That's probably the fastest I've ever read a novel as I couldn't put it down. Beautiful world building descriptions as expected. Please don't open the spoilers unless you've read it. It will spoil the whole book. using the pylons was inventive and quite badass! I liked that bit, a nice plot twist Also. The funniest bit that made me laugh out loud the grumpy silent sister didn't want to speak to anyone so when someone tried to only smile at her she used some kind of powerful thoughtmark that threw her over a table! :d ... strange how anything like that even works within her null field as you would imagine it was Warp related! Well done Chris Wraight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Oooo, just started listening to it so I won't revisit the thread until complete but the audiobook has 2 actors and 1 actress. That's something new and exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulemain Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I really enjoyed it, if I do say so myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Will be getting the LE of this if its Wraight's usual top notch quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Will be getting the LE of this if its Wraight's usual top notch quality.I'm not a book critic but I enjoyed it.It is narrated by the various protagonists, and the action switches between them, sometimes giving different perspectives about the same event. The fact that Custodes and Grey Knights are Rivals, is amusing to say the least.Now Chris had a good description about the Custodes, there's the Captain General, the Tribune's, the Companions, it mentions Custodes Terminators and Dreadnaughts, and Talius Grav Tank. So GW I'm waiting for the Talons army list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Very good so far. Looks nicely into the politics of the HLOT. "There's a blind and mutilated sorcerer down in the gaols calling himself Iskandar Khayon" Ahahaha - nice one. Hope Sagron is making a company in the next cell :) Will be getting the LE of this if its Wraight's usual top notch quality.I'm not a book critic but I enjoyed it.It is narrated by the various protagonists, and the action switches between them, sometimes giving different perspectives about the same event. The fact that Custodes and Grey Knights are Rivals, is amusing to say the least.Now Chris had a good description about the Custodes, there's the Captain General, the Tribune's, the Companions, it mentions Custodes Terminators and Dreadnaughts, and Talius Grav Tank. So GW I'm waiting for the Talons army list. Well - we all know that Watchers would contain a lot of advertisement for the SoS and Custodes. Guess what - we where right :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 I was also surprised that the Sisters of Silence were able to hold their own in close combat with Traitors. Are they gene enhanced in a similar fashion to Astartes as I've always thought they were just highly trained mortals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Hopefully it will translate to a 40k codex. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karthak Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 A question for those who have read the book: Does it include Guilliman coming to Terra? The free extract sure seems to hint at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Hopefully it will translate to a 40k codex. ;) I need a super small elite army for 40K so here's hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 A question for those who have read the book: Does it include Guilliman coming to Terra? The free extract sure seems to hint at that. Affirmative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 The fact that Custodes and Grey Knights are Rivals, is amusing to say the least.Now Chris had a good description about the Custodes, there's the Captain General, the Tribune's, the Companions, it mentions Custodes Terminators and Dreadnaughts, and Talius Grav Tank. So GW I'm waiting for the Talons army list. A fanboy's dream come true...they are, after all, the Imperium's two most elite transhuman organisations I was also surprised that the Sisters of Silence were able to hold their own in close combat with Traitors. Are they gene enhanced in a similar fashion to Astartes as I've always thought they were just highly trained mortals? They have to be right No human, no matter how conditioned, could match an Astartes' strength and speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I was also surprised that the Sisters of Silence were able to hold their own in close combat with Traitors. Are they gene enhanced in a similar fashion to Astartes as I've always thought they were just highly trained mortals? That's heresy. One of the good thing McNeil did in the 'TS' and Forge World in 'Inferno' - they shown how 'squashy' SoS are against SM. SoS power - is in the null aura. They are not augmented superhumans - they can't fight in melee versus SM. So here Chris overdid a bit. Though I know why - SoS need to sell themselves A question for those who have read the book: Does it include Guilliman coming to Terra? The free extract sure seems to hint at that. Affirmative. Well - it seems that's how the book ends - right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Well I think they were ganging up and supporting the Custodes, they weren't 1vs1 traitors. The SoS protagonist faced a Black Legionarie 1vs1 and almost died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Yes HeritorA. Have you not read this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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