Deployment of the Spectral Sicarii (homebrew RG)

[9x19 Parabellum]

Thanks for taking my comment in measured stride!  It was entirely meant to be light-hearted, and as an excuse to use the phrase "flaccid man-parts".  Your response demonstrates what a great guy you are!

[Dracos]

I hear you and I've thought about that. I'll offer my thought process below, but first observe one member of my Spectral Sicarii Kill Team:

 

 

 

 

Absolutely loving the clean colors and technique. Would love to see these guys with a big brother Redemptor ;)

[thewarriorhunter]

 

Absolutely loving the clean colors and technique. Would love to see these guys with a big brother Redemptor

 

I've thought about it... I want to tell a story with these guys, I've actually thought about trying my hand at some fan fiction for them (because we've all got a little black-library-author in us, right?). I want to start their story as a Kill Team and as it evolves I'll have them come across characters that they ally with or that join their ranks.

 

For example at the end of one of their campaigns (books/short story if I ever write it) they run across a knight pilot. This exposes them to a knightly house that <details to be determined> and they ally together. Thus I start building my knight army and fielding them together.

 

Another story would be around them answering an Imperium encoded distress call. They answer the call and end up helping in the defense of an abandoned outpost. Survivors are few and shattered but they desire to fight on and join the ranks of the Spectral Sicarii. In real life this is when I add a unit of whatever to help bolster the army for larger 40k battles.

 

Another story has them working as a combined arms with my Raven Guard army. This supports the lore that they are a successor chapter and explains why I have two different paint schemes on the table in real life.

 

It's fun to think about and eventually I'd love to find time to write about them.

 

Tonight I did some clean up on my pods. I lined the sections of the fin with blue and really like the look of the blue running into the grooves. I got one fin cleaned up with the Sky Gray base color. Four to go....

 

[Race Bannon]

 

 

Absolutely loving the clean colors and technique. Would love to see these guys with a big brother Redemptor

 

I've thought about it... I want to tell a story with these guys, I've actually thought about trying my hand at some fan fiction for them (because we've all got a little black-library-author in us, right?). I want to start their story as a Kill Team and as it evolves I'll have them come across characters that they ally with or that join their ranks.

 

For example at the end of one of their campaigns (books/short story if I ever write it) they run across a knight pilot. This exposes them to a knightly house that <details to be determined> and they ally together. Thus I start building my knight army and fielding them together.

 

Another story would be around them answering an Imperium encoded distress call. They answer the call and end up helping in the defense of an abandoned outpost. Survivors are few and shattered but they desire to fight on and join the ranks of the Spectral Sicarii. In real life this is when I add a unit of whatever to help bolster the army for larger 40k battles.

 

Another story has them working as a combined arms with my Raven Guard army. This supports the lore that they are a successor chapter and explains why I have two different paint schemes on the table in real life.

 

It's fun to think about and eventually I'd love to find time to write about them.

 

 

Dude ... you must do this.  It's a moral imperative.

[Shadow Captain Vyper]

I really like the look of running the "undercoat" into the panels like that. Looks sharp!

 

[longjohnsilver]

The drop pod fins are looking fantastic. I've got 3 pods to paint but mine were assembled using the Ron Saikowski method, so I can use them in games and pull them apart to paint anytime.

[thewarriorhunter]

I've seen people do that and genuinely want to ask: why?

 

The only argument I can see for it is a dreadnaught drop pod but even then technically the doors don't work. I've seen some people do some hardcore conversions on the normal DP for that but it I didn't want to go that route.

[Race Bannon]

Why?

 

HOBBY FOR THE HOBBY GOD!!

[thewarriorhunter]

Fins are closer and they're all up to the same step in the process. I finished washing the steel this morning. All that's left is to edge highlight the gray and steel, then recess highlight/wash the blue. After that I'm sure I'll need to clean up the base layers a bit and I can call them done.

 

[thewarriorhunter]

I've really enjoyed the discussion from GreyCrow's thread: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/351151-axioms-of-victory-unconventional-rg-strategies/?do=findComment&comment=5190510

 

I've decided to give toy around with his ideas of sacrificial units to support the troops and put together a 650pt list with what I have. Everything will be painted except my captain . I have an unpainted VV model that I can use for him. I really want to play with only painted models and am almost at that point. If I ran my captain without a jump pack I'd have a painted model. Here's the list and my thoughts:

 

 

++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Space Marines) [41 PL, 649pts] ++

 

+ HQ +

 

Captain: Chainsword, Iron Resolve, Jump Pack, Master-crafted boltgun, The Armour Indomitus, Warlord

 

+ Troops +

 

Scout Squad

. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

. 3x Scout w/Boltgun

. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

 

Scout Squad: 5x Camo cloak

. Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Sniper rifle

. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher

. 3x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 3x Sniper rifle

 

Tactical Squad

. 9x Space Marine

. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun/Bolt pistol

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Assault Squad: Jump Pack

. 2x Space Marine

. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

. Space Marine w/Special Weapon

. . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol

. Space Marine w/Special Weapon

. . Plasma Pistol & Chainsword: Plasma pistol

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Devastator Squad

. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun

. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon

. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter

. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon

. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon

 

 

I went with a captain over a LT because I'm hoping to flit him around between the devs and the assault squad. He can help support the devs for a turn or two and then keep up with the assault squad so they can overcharge the plasma.

 

I'll have 20 models of troops on the table and am planning on combat squading the marines. Sniper scouts will be placed on a backfield objective and sit and take pot shots. Bolt gun scouts will deploy forward to grab an objective or deny area. Marines grab what they can.

 

Devastators are there to draw fire and deal with anything big. Hopefully I can get them in cover with a good lane of fire. I normally run 2x LC and 2x ML but needed the points for the jump captain. I normally try to run the squad with either all 48" range weapons or 36" so nothings wasted but that can't be helped here.

 

Assault squad will either be deployed and SFTS(scout move) to cover or help for a turn two drop. My plan is to use them to harass and bring the Captain up to support them over charging.

 

A couple thoughts on changes/tweaks:

 

I could drop the HB/PC from the dev squad and replace the Assault squad with Inceptors. It's one more wound and a lot of dakka and range but less AP than the current setup. I could also drop the tac squad bodies down to fit the ML's into the dev squad. There's probably a few other things I could do but I've got some time to play with this. I'd love to field more primaris but I want to paint those up as my Spectral Sicarii and I've got too many other projects going on right now to dedicate time to getting a small force of them done.

[WickedApp]

You could drop the Tac to a 5 man unit add a 5 man scout bolter squad, give those extra pts to up grade the Dev squad to ML and Strormbolter on serg.

[thewarriorhunter]

Good idea but I only have two scout squads painted. I've got another box of bolters but they're not even built yet. I'm debating if I paint them Raven Guard or Spectral Sicarii.

[WickedApp]

I am always running into that problem myself.  I create a list with troops/ equip I own, then I change it to stuff that would work better but I do not have.  Still painting up the new troops, Just got in my extra Stormbolters.

[thewarriorhunter]

I try really hard to only play with painted models so it does limit what I can use. It's also motivation to keep working on what I want to play with.

[WickedApp]

I got razed hard for playing with an armless squad once.  So I can appreciate  the paint on the models only attitude. 

[thewarriorhunter]

Ha. I'll proxy at times or play with a model/squad that's blue tacked together. I don't do it often and I usually let my opponent know beforehand in case they take issue. I think since the majority of my list is painted I can get a pass every now and then.

[WickedApp]

In the end I'm glad I proxied.   the unit under performed as was which allowed me to reconfigure the bits.  I really have not had the time to try the new units but they are cheaper in pts than the whole unit.

[thewarriorhunter]

Tonight I got some more highlighting done on the pod fins. They've really taken a back seat as I work on the Stuffed Fables minis. The three fins on the left need the final white highlight and then on too blue. The two on the right still need all the highlights. I'm getting faster with this scheme and techniques so I'm hoping the base of the pod goes  a lot faster than these have.

 

[duz_]

Highlights look great!

 

Cant wait to see it with the blue.highlights! :tu:

[Race Bannon]

I may have missed it: gluing doors closed or going full monty?

[thewarriorhunter]

They can't disembark if the doors won't open

[Firepower]

They can't disembark if the doors won't open

I wish you luck there. Even with an airbrush painting my Pods was a strain on sanity. The total surface area of one inside and out is easily more than a Landraider.

[thewarriorhunter]

That's because you didn't paint the inside of the landraider . If I ever build one I'll be painting the inside of that as well... the scale modeler in me just won't die

[thewarriorhunter]

Finally done with the fins... took way longer than it should have but I don't mind since painting is my zen. I've really been enjoying the break the the board game minis have been providing as well.

 

I'll be doing the doors and base next.

 

[thewarriorhunter]

Started on the pod body. Base coat of gray is done (I think). I'm not really sure what to do with the inside of the doors. I know a lot of people use hazard stripes but I'm not a fan. I'd think a genetically engineered super soldier would know where the doors of the pod are when he's stepping on to board and rushing off in a fight. I think I may just add the gray to the inside lip, or I may go steel all over, not sure yet but I've got a couple days to think before I start painting again.