Charlo Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Really easy one my diseased brethren of the 14th... Do the Forge World Hellbrutes (Leviathan, Contemptor etc) benefit from the Legion Trait: Inexorable Advance e.g. they can move and shoot heavy weapons with no penalty, advance and shoot assault with no penalty and rapid fire up to 18"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate77 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I've seen this discussion come up a couple of times in the past. The short answer is no, unfortunately FW Hellbrute variants do not benefit from the advance and shoot Hvy weapons bonus. Also, if I remember correctly, the Rapid Fire benefit is only for infantry models so Hellbrutes wouldn't benefit from that anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Any reasoning why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's because of the way it's written, Helbrute is written in reference to the unit and not the keyword. Much to my frustration as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I know I am not alone in hoping this gets FAQ so my 30k DG Contemptor can come out to play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Most of them FW dreads are BS 2+ anyway so even if you are moving and shooting it's still the same BS as a normal Helbrute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I can't start new threads atm (seems a lot of people can't) but it'd be good to have one for discussing the utility of regular 'brutes, especially now we have IA and other light vehicle options like the blight-hauler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 In regards to codex Helbrutes, they're cheap and they don't degrade with wounds... and obviously they benefit from Inexorable Advance. Bloody Legionnaire and Mack 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 FAQ is UP! https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Codex_Death_Guard_ENG.pdf Most importantly... Inexorable Advanced has changed to include the HELBRUTE keyword!!!!! Bloody Legionnaire 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 FAQ is UP! https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Codex_Death_Guard_ENG.pdf Most importantly... Inexorable Advanced has changed to include the HELBRUTE keyword!!!!! This makes Helforged Helbrutes super good IMO. Definitely think I'll be picking one up to add to my DG eventually. I kinda of felt like the Helbrute key word was enough in the first place... glad to have something *more* official though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Levis are going to bring the pain with those. Kind of annoyed they didn't fix more things in the faq though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I think dakka contemptors are going to as well... They can march up the table and provide some pretty excellent fire support to Plague Marines. When the Dreadnought Drop Pod comes back throwing a levi in one of those would be pretty nasty though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Won't matter when it comes back, chaos doesn't have access to it. Only transport that can take a chaos leviathan is the kharybdis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 sweet, so fire on the move with no penalty, or bring a CSM detachment and give it Fire Frenzy to stand still and fire twice at nearest visible target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 We have fire frenzy in our book though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Still can't benefit from fire frenzy as it only affects the Helbrute unit not Keyword helbrute banis 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyGitWargaming Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 So chuffed about that FAQ :D Seriously considering a pair of Deredeo's with Butcher cannons, HB's and the greater havoc launcher.. so much dakka. Plaguecaster 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilliman-89 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 So glad they changed this, gives even more options to the death guard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 So chuffed about that FAQ :D Seriously considering a pair of Deredeo's with Butcher cannons, HB's and the greater havoc launcher.. so much dakka.They are pretty awesome for he amount of Dakka they can dish out and it's going to be so good having mine constantly moving forward surrounded by plague marines or poxwalkers laying down a heavy barrage of firepower :D LazyGitWargaming 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyGitWargaming Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 So chuffed about that FAQ Seriously considering a pair of Deredeo's with Butcher cannons, HB's and the greater havoc launcher.. so much dakka.They are pretty awesome for he amount of Dakka they can dish out and it's going to be so good having mine constantly moving forward surrounded by plague marines or poxwalkers laying down a heavy barrage of firepower Alternatively using the Hellfire Veil to boost their survivability as they advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 The Leviathan I've had sat unbuilt for whatever 30k Legion I do is now most likely going to be pledged to the Death Lord Gumo9 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 My Levi and Contemptor from 30k will be put to good use now. Grav bombard and siege claw should be fun in 40k games again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I do think this opened up a new list build. FW butcher and levi dreads surrounded by poxwalkers to use cloud of flies on. Bulwyf 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyGitWargaming Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 What do you folks think the best load-out is for a Leviathan? (Assuming it's walking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000 Sons Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Grav bombard and snippy claw has been a constant performer for me. The nipple flamers on the leviathan are also solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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