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Love Both Armies So Sort Of Conflicted From A Lore Aspect.


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I actually have a similiar problem with the lore of the DE as I see myslef as a pretty ncie guy and supporting an army that loves to torture and maim seems bad.

 

But I do love the miniatures, love the tactics and think they are fun to play with. So that wins me over even if I questions there fluff. 

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I wouldn't worry :smile.: I have some Imperial armies, a Slaaneshi Chaos warband with quite a few Daemonettes and I don't have any problems also having a Dark Eldar army :tongue.:

 

None of the armies in 40k are good guys in the usual term (it is relative though) so right or wrong doesn't really matter for a fictional table top universe. Plus the DE fluff is abysmal for the most part so I ignore it. They're my cartoon villains, the true draw of an army is chiefly the models to me anyway :wink: Plus if you like to craft your own lore you can set them up as enemies and work in some stories to help give them some more character :tu:

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I don't think that our fluff is bad. It's Actually tragic. We lie to ourselves that we want to be the way we are, that we are masters of our fate but the truth is that we are dying. Slowly losing ourselves while she who thirsts sucks ever growing parts of our souls into the warp. We are forced to do all of that.
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It's all subjective of course, the core story is good I like that it's central to the 40k universe too - it's all the various blurbs and snippets that are rubbish. It's the same as the GK codex, just contextless tales without depth that I can't make myself care about. It's not like there's Shakespeare at work on GW codices of course, but these two always stuck out to me. Not just because of the shallow content but because the Dark Eldar have so much potential for rich stories (as proven by the theme) but instead we're left with moustache twirling schemes and Asdrubael "just as planned" Vect. It's disappointing as a codex is more than just the rules and points :confused:

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No, but I'm sure BL does a much better job than the codices :P I think it's unfortunately more of a case of GW having DE low on the pecking order, perhaps now the setting has moved on a couple of centuries we can expect some decent embellishment at some point. Fortunately the DE have fantastic models and style which is one of the best reasons to collect an army ;)

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I was really impressed with the Path of the Archon trilogy. The plot itself wasn’t anything particularly memorable, especially in the later books, but the world building and dark imagination of the trilogy was phenomenal, some of the best I think BL has done.

 

Comorrah is incredibly well depicted in the books, you actually get a pretty vivid sense of how the economy, social structures, and daily life of average citizens operate. It is at times chillingly beautiful and creepy. There are so many great details- deranged poets and murderous banquets, “alien” slums and gambling houses where people bet on the success of real space raids.

 

One of my favorite bits is that Vect keeps a perfect clone of himself in the throne room to confuse people. The two Vects sit beside each other and no one can tell if they are talking to the real one or the clone slave, which makes it even harder to plot against the crazy mastermind.

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I was really impressed with the Path of the Archon trilogy. The plot itself wasn’t anything particularly memorable, especially in the later books, but the world building and dark imagination of the trilogy was phenomenal, some of the best I think BL has done.

 

Comorrah is incredibly well depicted in the books, you actually get a pretty vivid sense of how the economy, social structures, and daily life of average citizens operate. It is at times chillingly beautiful and creepy. There are so many great details- deranged poets and murderous banquets, “alien” slums and gambling houses where people bet on the success of real space raids.

 

One of my favorite bits is that Vect keeps a perfect clone of himself in the throne room to confuse people. The two Vects sit beside each other and no one can tell if they are talking to the real one or the clone slave, which makes it even harder to plot against the crazy mastermind.

 

This. Absolutely go read the Path of the Dark Eldar Trilogy. I just finished it. The world building is fantastic. It gives a great representation of the True Kin.

 

Their souls being sucked away slowly by She Who Thirsts is tragic, but the Dark Eldar are so much more complex than that.

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I loved Path of the Dark Eldar. The first book of the series is probably my favorite, just because when you open it and read it for the first time, it's something totally new. There's a good amount of truly beautiful and also horrific things.

 

After Xelian defeats Kraillach and starts to flay his body, Yllithian just watches, trying his best to hide his arousal for her antics. It's almost comical yet totally :censored:'ed up at the same time.

 

I also liked the sense of adventure and exploration, such as the hunt for the Pure Heart, or Malixian going after... birds. 

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Path of the Dark Eldar showed the Dark Eldar as they are: arrogant, suspicious but also naive. Andy Chambers did a fantastic job at world building but the depth of his characters made the books what they were.

 

The paralels between the different Dark Eldar characters and the attention to detail appealed to me as a Dark Eldar fan. Morr the Incubus was a particulay well written character simply because his vindictive sense of honour was such a contrast to the back-stabbing opportunists all around him.

 

"Thanks my archon,' said Morr, 'for the gift of vindication."

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I do think the book describes dark eldar really well but as far as black library books go it's not my favorite. Good BL books I can easily shoot through in a week but I've been slowly reading Path of the Dark Eldar for months. It's more a book I see as being good for exploring the lore of DE than seeing it as a good story. 

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