RoadRunna Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 As i pay an EC loyalist list i can't run a Primarch but keen to kill some of the bad ones !! What Knight would people recommend as having the best chsnce of beating one in HTH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBOcaster Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Any knight really those stomps will remove from play so after that its what can survive long enough short answer, lancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Depends on the Primarch too... Seeing as you'll be fighting traitors here are how they stack up when fighting knights (so AV13) on a damage dealing basis. Fulgrim: Can only deal damage with a decent rend Perturabo: If he has the hammer watch out, otherwise he's only glancing on 6's Kurze: cannot touch a knight Angron: RUN. He is Initiative 7 and S9 AP2 Armourbane with Hatred. He'll dismantle Knights before they get to strike most of the time Mortarion: Lancer him, as you'll be striking first @I5. He can only glance on 6s too but has Sunder Magnus: S9 AP2 so fairly deadly. But he'll probably blast you with D-Fireballs as you get close... Horus: S10 AP2 and lots of attacks means he's dangerous Lorgar: Can hit a few times a S8 or SMASH for S10 with a re-roll. Both AP2 so mildly scary Alpharius: S6 AP1 Armourbane, so on average a glance against AV13, but if he pens you'll feel it. Gorgoff, Jarl Kjaran Coldheart, Billy Butcher and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 That may be the best breakdown of facing Angron I’ve ever read Billy Butcher, Charlo and Brad_hutcho 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I feel your pain. I’m also running Loyaliat EC, but I’m compounding the problem by going for an Orbital Assault list! The only thing I have is a Leviathan, so I’m mostly looking at relying on masses plasma and Melta shooting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Id prob go for the lancer tbh. Few ap2 shots before it goes into combat. It also has a save in combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunna Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 I think the lancer is ahead in HTH due to perhaps the +1 Int on the charge... all HTH Knight weapons are pretty similar (Sth 10 or D) . The Castigator also looks pretty handy in being able to deal with any bodyguard or squad that tries to muscle in on the HTH party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Loyal Emperor's Children could take their own custom 'Primarch' as an ally: The Tankibune ;) Edited September 26, 2017 by Gorgoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The Lancer seems nice with the I buff, but most of the time it's totally useless as the Primarchs are mostly higher than I5 or if not they have an unwieldy weapon. Thanks for the praise on the breakdown guys - it's astounding what you can achieve when you're avoiding work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The atropos is my favourite as you get a d shot before you brawl into combat but its mech only. Just pic which you think looks the best RoadRunna 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunna Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Knights now appear to be removed as a LOW choice for legion now under the new red book. Not listed in the viable LOW list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Yup. To take them you need to: Be Mechanicum Run them as an allied detachment of Questoris Knights (at least 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Can you run a normal plastic kit knight and an Atropos as an allied detachment (HQ and troop I assume?), or would you need a second plastic kit? Still waiting on my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Can you run a normal plastic kit knight and an Atropos as an allied detachment (HQ and troop I assume?), or would you need a second plastic kit? Still waiting on my book. Absolutely yes :) You'll need the Questoris Army List though too. infyrana 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Great, thank you, I figured the atropos might as well be my answer to "why no sicaran venator?". HS slots were already too full. To the original topic, does it do much versus some of the primarchs, or nothing compared to the Lancer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 It's big nasty D hits so will do a lot if it survives! Problem is they won't often be alone and as per my summary above, a few of them can hit pretty hard before you get to strike. infyrana 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_hutcho Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 That breakdown of Angron, I can't like it enough. Once I've built and painted mine, I look forward to him shredding armour like its paper Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 The Lancer seems nice with the I buff, but most of the time it's totally useless as the Primarchs are mostly higher than I5 or if not they have an unwieldy weapon. Thanks for the praise on the breakdown guys - it's astounding what you can achieve when you're avoiding work The Initiave bonus is not huge, although it does allow striking at the same time as hammerless Ferrus, Dorn, Perturabo, Mortarion, and Vulkan. More importantly, it actually gets a save in melee. Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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